xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
patient_ot wrote:I voted for the 3rd album.
For people that like the 3rd album, do you prefer the "closet mix" on the Peel Slowly box or the standard mix issued everywhere else? I think they both have merit.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
patient_ot wrote:I voted for the 3rd album.
For people that like the 3rd album, do you prefer the "closet mix" on the Peel Slowly box or the standard mix issued everywhere else? I think they both have merit.
version sound wrote:
IDK about “everywhere else.” The closet mix is the one that was originally released. The Val Valentine mix was mistakenly used on the UK first pressing, then did not reappear until the CD came out. The closet mix is what was intended by the VU (or at least Lou) in 1969.
version sound wrote:In the CD era, it definitely has been.
lewdd wrote:I'm not sure that I have knowingly heard a song by this band that I could name. I have listened to some of their songs with my quick listen method, and I don't think I would enjoy them. Carry on.
version sound wrote:After doing a little research, I see that the 1980s LP also used the VV mix. I’m not sure why whoever was in charge decided to go with that mix instead of Lou’s. I first heard the album on CD, so the VV mix was the one I knew best until PSAS came out. If I had to pick one, I’d go with the closet mix, as that was the way Lou wanted the material presented, but I like both.
I have the 45th Anniversary super deluxe versions of the first three albums, which are awesome sets. I also have pretty much everything on vintage vinyl, except VU & Nico. I had a 70s UK pressing of it, but it sounded like crap. I also have the OG ‘80s vinyl of VU and Another View. I would like to have 1969 on vinyl, but I’ve heard that the pressings are crappy. All of those mixes are on the super deluxe sets, so I don’t need the vinyl if it’s pressed badly. Besides, I’ve always liked VU and Another View, despite accusations that the mixes sound too ‘80s.
drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
pedro wrote:drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
Except for "I'm Waiting for the Man", "Heroin" , "European Sun", "Venus in Furs" and "Black Angel's Death Song",
patient_ot wrote:lewdd wrote:I'm not sure that I have knowingly heard a song by this band that I could name. I have listened to some of their songs with my quick listen method, and I don't think I would enjoy them. Carry on.
You've probably heard Sweet Jane. Used to get played on the radio fairly frequently, appeared in many different movies, etc.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:I went with WL/WH because it’s really the most Velvet Undergroundy of their records.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
If we're painting with huge brushes here, I'd say this: 3rd s/t album - everything sad, drony, post-rock-ish in indie rock comes from this album. No 3rd album, no Big Star 3rd, YLT, Galaxie 500/Luna, et al. In short, the whole "beautiful loser" aesthetic.
JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:I went with WL/WH because it’s really the most Velvet Undergroundy of their records.
I agree with what drew and pedro wrote about this album and some of the songs on the debut, but I think you're referring to a specific perception of VU more than what they actually were, which is a NYC band with Long Island roots and an outlet for Lou's songs, more or less.
JGJR wrote:drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
If we're painting with huge brushes here, I'd say this: 3rd s/t album - everything sad, drony, post-rock-ish in indie rock comes from this album. No 3rd album, no Big Star 3rd, YLT, Galaxie 500/Luna, et al. In short, the whole "beautiful loser" aesthetic.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
If we're painting with huge brushes here, I'd say this: 3rd s/t album - everything sad, drony, post-rock-ish in indie rock comes from this album. No 3rd album, no Big Star 3rd, YLT, Galaxie 500/Luna, et al. In short, the whole "beautiful loser" aesthetic.
Wrong on BS 3rd. First of all, they covered Femme Fatale from VU & Nico. Seems like a little hint about where the VU influence was coming from. There is nothing in 3rd that couldn’t have been influenced by the first two albums. I actually call bullshit on the idea that any of those bands were specifically influenced by only one VU record.
drew wrote:version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
If we're painting with huge brushes here, I'd say this: 3rd s/t album - everything sad, drony, post-rock-ish in indie rock comes from this album. No 3rd album, no Big Star 3rd, YLT, Galaxie 500/Luna, et al. In short, the whole "beautiful loser" aesthetic.
Wrong on BS 3rd. First of all, they covered Femme Fatale from VU & Nico. Seems like a little hint about where the VU influence was coming from. There is nothing in 3rd that couldn’t have been influenced by the first two albums. I actually call bullshit on the idea that any of those bands were specifically influenced by only one VU record.
I don’t agree at all. I think bands make very conscious decisions about their sound and specifically abou what “era” of a band they are “copping” In the case of VU its more of the style of songs bands take a chance at.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:I went with WL/WH because it’s really the most Velvet Undergroundy of their records.
I agree with what drew and pedro wrote about this album and some of the songs on the debut, but I think you're referring to a specific perception of VU more than what they actually were, which is a NYC band with Long Island roots and an outlet for Lou's songs, more or less.
Nope. The VU was as much Cale as it was Reed in the beginning, then Reed bullied Sterling and Moe into kicking Cale out so that he could completely take over. After that, it was only an outlet for his songs. VU with Cale was a very different band. Don’t fool yourself.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:drew wrote:WL/WH. Everything dark & dangerous about Rock comes from this album.
If we're painting with huge brushes here, I'd say this: 3rd s/t album - everything sad, drony, post-rock-ish in indie rock comes from this album. No 3rd album, no Big Star 3rd, YLT, Galaxie 500/Luna, et al. In short, the whole "beautiful loser" aesthetic.
Wrong on BS 3rd. First of all, they covered Femme Fatale from VU & Nico. Seems like a little hint about where the VU influence was coming from. There is nothing in 3rd that couldn’t have been influenced by the first two albums. I actually call bullshit on the idea that any of those bands were specifically influenced by only one VU record.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:I voted for the first record. In case you were wondering.
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