scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:Thanks all!
And yes, Javier is a good friend. When I was thinking of co-hosts he immediately came to mind not only because we're great friends, but because I knew there would be A LOT that we disagree on. To me, hearing a bunch of people with the same exact opinions together on a pod can get kinda boring. Do his opinions baffle and even sometimes infuriate me? Absolutely.
jaybird wrote:gregpolard wrote:Thanks all!
And yes, Javier is a good friend. When I was thinking of co-hosts he immediately came to mind not only because we're great friends, but because I knew there would be A LOT that we disagree on. To me, hearing a bunch of people with the same exact opinions together on a pod can get kinda boring. Do his opinions baffle and even sometimes infuriate me? Absolutely.
It wasn't even really that he doesn't care for Dag... people like or don't like whatever they like or don't like, that's fine... just some of the arguments he was making like: "why would it make a difference one way or the other if Brian Baker were playing with Field Day? Anyone can play the guitar parts" (paraphrasing)... No dude, not just anyone can play like him. And ideally, seeing the people who actually wrote those parts/songs actually play them live is kinda a huge part of the reason why people go to see bands that they are fans of in the first place... otherwise, why not just stay home and listen to the records, or go see cover bands?
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:jaybird wrote:gregpolard wrote:Thanks all!
And yes, Javier is a good friend. When I was thinking of co-hosts he immediately came to mind not only because we're great friends, but because I knew there would be A LOT that we disagree on. To me, hearing a bunch of people with the same exact opinions together on a pod can get kinda boring. Do his opinions baffle and even sometimes infuriate me? Absolutely.
It wasn't even really that he doesn't care for Dag... people like or don't like whatever they like or don't like, that's fine... just some of the arguments he was making like: "why would it make a difference one way or the other if Brian Baker were playing with Field Day? Anyone can play the guitar parts" (paraphrasing)... No dude, not just anyone can play like him. And ideally, seeing the people who actually wrote those parts/songs actually play them live is kinda a huge part of the reason why people go to see bands that they are fans of in the first place... otherwise, why not just stay home and listen to the records, or go see cover bands?
I understand.
the mean wrote:I know Javier mostly from the interwebs, but we did meet up once in person. Seems like a solid dude with some occasional bad takes.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
Nico wrote:Loving this episode Greg! Javier is so not getting it, still love to hear his opinion.
Also this partial, not full show, is back on youtube, one of the best of the Dag reunion shows I have seen: https://youtu.be/IljDvOPxAQ0
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
FlexMyHead wrote:Hey, was working on something online and had a chance to listen to this podcast. I know you've posted about the Rev one, but I've never listened to it.
I'd have to agree that having Javier be a part of this was odd. It wasn't just his take, but that he added nothing other than "my ears are better than yours" kinda stuff. He knew nothing about the band, kept asking which record you were talking about etc. Having him on was basically a waste of time. Having someone with a different opinion is great, but someone acting as if they have better things to do was kinda weird. Maybe that is his deal to be contrarian? He was basically an "Ambulance Song" of the podcast. Cut him out and it would have been much better (haha). I had to laugh out loud when he said Korn was better. Not grasping Brian's importance in terms of the band was also strange. Oh well.
For me, Oise was the best part, he addressed the music, artwork, lyrics/story telling, song writing and did it in the way many Europeans do when they use English in ways speakers of it wouldn't, but that it made more sense. He very much reminded me of many of the Yurp punx I knew.
One thing that I thought was a bit strange was taking a line, out of context, of an interview about Shawn "not looking like them" and framing it in a way that made it sound like they wanted Shawn gone in a racist way and then having Javier (who obviously knows nothing about the band) reference the same sentiment later. The full response (interview was about three weeks after Shawn's last show) was obviously humorous and was poking fun at the fact they all had bleached blonde hair. The last part of what he said was most accurate "but he (Dave) could sing well". Brian thought Shawn couldn't sing and he wanted the vocals to be heard and be able to be sung by the crowd. Maybe there has been something said before, but I've never ever heard of that coming up before, in any context, and to kinda slide it that they might have ditched him because of how he "looked" was kinda fucked?
I thought you all had many good points and was interesting hearing the "hot take" breakdowns and thoughts about the project albums etc. I also still can't figure out how they thought "Ambulance Song" and "La Penita" would work, both live and on record, for a Dag Nasty fan.
Gonna try to check out some of the other podcast things you've done.
Some things that most likely I only care about:
The "coke and doritos" line is 100% about the drink, not cocaine.
London May did a three month tour after Colin's cyst issue.
The photos on Field Day are from the 09-06-87 City Gardens show and not the 11-19-87 show (even though Lewdd thinks they are, lol).
lewdd wrote:
Some of them may be City Gardens but the "Y" is from Allentown Music Hall.
FlexMyHead wrote:lewdd wrote:
Some of them may be City Gardens but the "Y" is from Allentown Music Hall.
I have much shame and embarassment that I have devoted time in my life to know this, but Peter was actually wearing a white Corrosion of Conformity shirt at the Allentown show.
All the photos on Field Day were provided to the label by Ken Salerno. And by the way, if you have seen an awesome looking photo from City Gardens stage left/slightly above the stage then there is a 99% chance that Ken took it. He is kinda like how J.J. Gonson was for NYC/Boston.
lewdd wrote:
Say what you want. I was at the show. I know what my roommate and I look/looked like. That photo in the "Y" is from Allentown.
FlexMyHead wrote:lewdd wrote:
Say what you want. I was at the show. I know what my roommate and I look/looked like. That photo in the "Y" is from Allentown.
Uh. For reasons still unknown to me, I have about 20 gigography things for bands and about once a year I update/sort through photos etc. During the year, if I come across a flyer or photo or something, I put it in a folder and sort through it later. Some bands like Embrace or Rites of Spring are easy because they played just a handful of shows. Others like Black Flag, have hundreds of shows. Dag Nasty is smaller size, but I think I'm only missing something (flyer, photo, video, audio, or quote) for about 20 shows. Here is the link for the Allentown show. I reached out to the photographer and he sent me other shows from the same venue, so I know 100% this is the right venue and date.
http://www.flexmyhead.com/DagNasty/dag111987.html
To quote the always quotable Geto Boyz, maybe "My Mind is Playing Tricks On Me".
Oh and here is the show the photos on the front of the record are taken from:
http://www.flexmyhead.com/DagNasty/dag090687.html
The insert photos are from the 11-22-87 show also at City Gardens and also taken by Ken.
lewdd wrote:The Dag tour with COC was in August and Dag played City Gardens on 8/9 with COC according to this page http://metallipromo.com/dagnasty.html. I'm guessing those photos of Peter with the COC shirt were from that August tour and not the November show in Allentown.
The photographer is from NY and there are two NY shows listed on that site for the COC tour. I'm guessing the photos of Peter with the COC shirt were from one of those venues.
lewdd wrote:Don't worry, you are only taking 30+ years of my small piece of internet fame away from me if you prove me wrong.
FlexMyHead wrote:lewdd wrote:Don't worry, you are only taking 30+ years of my small piece of internet fame away from me if you prove me wrong.
Lewdd, you son of a bitch, you tricked me into watch a fucking Exploited video!!!!!!!
lewdd wrote:
I'm glad you enjoyed it as much as I did.
the mean wrote:To tie it up a bit: I saw Dag Nasty (with London May on drums) open for the Exploited in 1987. It was a gnarly era in Sacramento, with lots of skinheads and violence.
jaybird wrote:For future reference, here's a shot of them with London May on the kit, 5/23/87 @ The Graystone in Detroit, opening for Rollins Band, which was the first time I saw them... my buddy Brian took two pics, one of Brian and London, and one of Peter and Doug, which I spliced together in Photoshop for a wide shot/panoramic version.
FlexMyHead wrote:And do you know if this is from the same show? I don't know what the inside of the club looked like:
FlexMyHead wrote:the mean wrote:To tie it up a bit: I saw Dag Nasty (with London May on drums) open for the Exploited in 1987. It was a gnarly era in Sacramento, with lots of skinheads and violence.
Hmmmm....
http://www.flexmyhead.com/DagNasty/dag071987.html
the mean wrote:Yep, that's the one. My friend Shayne posted that.
jaybird wrote:LOL, amazing thread.
creature wrote:Lew, you'll always be my Y... and that's just the way it fucking is.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:I don’t think I want to live in a world in which Lewdd is not featured in the Field Day “Y”. #Disillusioned.
FlexMyHead wrote:Hey, was working on something online and had a chance to listen to this podcast. I know you've posted about the Rev one, but I've never listened to it.
I'd have to agree that having Javier be a part of this was odd. It wasn't just his take, but that he added nothing other than "my ears are better than yours" kinda stuff. He knew nothing about the band, kept asking which record you were talking about etc. Having him on was basically a waste of time. Having someone with a different opinion is great, but someone acting as if they have better things to do was kinda weird. Maybe that is his deal to be contrarian? He was basically an "Ambulance Song" of the podcast. Cut him out and it would have been much better (haha). I had to laugh out loud when he said Korn was better. Not grasping Brian's importance in terms of the band was also strange. Oh well.
For me, Oise was the best part, he addressed the music, artwork, lyrics/story telling, song writing and did it in the way many Europeans do when they use English in ways speakers of it wouldn't, but that it made more sense. He very much reminded me of many of the Yurp punx I knew.
One thing that I thought was a bit strange was taking a line, out of context, of an interview about Shawn "not looking like them" and framing it in a way that made it sound like they wanted Shawn gone in a racist way and then having Javier (who obviously knows nothing about the band) reference the same sentiment later. The full response (interview was about three weeks after Shawn's last show) was obviously humorous and was poking fun at the fact they all had bleached blonde hair. The last part of what he said was most accurate "but he (Dave) could sing well". Brian thought Shawn couldn't sing and he wanted the vocals to be heard and be able to be sung by the crowd. Maybe there has been something said before, but I've never ever heard of that coming up before, in any context, and to kinda slide it that they might have ditched him because of how he "looked" was kinda fucked?
I thought you all had many good points and was interesting hearing the "hot take" breakdowns and thoughts about the project albums etc. I also still can't figure out how they thought "Ambulance Song" and "La Penita" would work, both live and on record, for a Dag Nasty fan.
Gonna try to check out some of the other podcast things you've done.
Some things that most likely I only care about:
The "coke and doritos" line is 100% about the drink, not cocaine.
London May did a three month tour after Colin's cyst issue.
The photos on Field Day are from the 09-06-87 City Gardens show and not the 11-19-87 show (even though Lewdd thinks they are, lol).
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
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