xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:oh god, no.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:oh god, no.
My favorite STT record, yo.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:oh god, no.
My favorite STT record, yo.
But compared to the sheer brilliance of Ten Spot, Funeral and Get your Goat???
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
the mean wrote:I'm with gregpolard.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:the mean wrote:I'm with gregpolard.
Sad.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
kevin wrote:It's either old stock or a bootleg. The band has no idea why this is listed there.
Now, have you heard of an "authorized bootleg" before? Sounds weird, right? Well sadly, that has become all too prevelant in recent years. But what does it mean? Basically, a company gets a license for an album from the label that controls the masters for the album in question and then releases the record. Sounds kosher? Well no, because sadly, some companies skip the part where you find out if the band actually want you to release it—or for that matter if they want anyone to release it.
Sounds like something that shouldn't happen, right? Unfortunately, this is something that does happen, and quite often—in fact, there are companies out there that strictly release these so-called "authorized bootlegs," never bothering to get an artist's permission before profiting off of their work. Many times, the members of the band will not even know about the reissue until you, the consumer, do. Sometimes the band will already even be talking with a label they want to release the album through, and then said label contacts the master rightsholder to find out another company has already secured the license. (There are some cases where i think this is acceptable, which I'll cover later.) This is something that has happened to many of our friends lately, and us as well.
FlexMyHead wrote:Speaking of the best STT record, I just got a new copy of it on blue vinyl straight from Dischord.
I think I posted about this before, but there is just a shit-ton of these "reissue LP labels", they cast a wide net and have some punk rock shit in there from time to time, but it's purely a money/business. Sad thing bands like STT that are on major labels don't even get the big picture. I remember reading something about Mars Volta (ex-At The Drive In) who were upset about some Reissue Company re-releasing their records and said they were bootlegs then they company turned around a fucking owned them with a "Our releases are officially licensed and cleared by the copyright owners.". Whoops, might want to re-read your contact indie-band that signed to a major. Not 100% sure that happened to STT but wouldn't be surprised.
This was from an article about this:Now, have you heard of an "authorized bootleg" before? Sounds weird, right? Well sadly, that has become all too prevelant in recent years. But what does it mean? Basically, a company gets a license for an album from the label that controls the masters for the album in question and then releases the record. Sounds kosher? Well no, because sadly, some companies skip the part where you find out if the band actually want you to release it—or for that matter if they want anyone to release it.
Sounds like something that shouldn't happen, right? Unfortunately, this is something that does happen, and quite often—in fact, there are companies out there that strictly release these so-called "authorized bootlegs," never bothering to get an artist's permission before profiting off of their work. Many times, the members of the band will not even know about the reissue until you, the consumer, do. Sometimes the band will already even be talking with a label they want to release the album through, and then said label contacts the master rightsholder to find out another company has already secured the license. (There are some cases where i think this is acceptable, which I'll cover later.) This is something that has happened to many of our friends lately, and us as well.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:Up until and including Get your Goat, they were writing SONGS. And some beautiful stuff.
After that, I have no idea WTF happened. It was shockingly bad.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
version sound wrote:STT were always (musical) weirdos, and I don't see how PER is any weirder than what they did on Dischord.
kevin wrote:It's either old stock or a bootleg. The band has no idea why this is listed there.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:I don't think anyone is arguing that PER is better than Ten Spot. If they are, they are...mistaken. While your ears my very well be better than mine, neither you nor Midge seem to be basing this on your ears. You seem to be basing your opinion on 20+ year old memories of what this record sounds like. You also seem to be forgetting that there were 2 albums between Ten Spot and PER. PER may have more "major label" production, but it's not that markedly different from Get Yer Goat otherwise. I suggest that you and Midge both go back and actually listen to the record.
version sound wrote:Your previous post was nowhere near ridiculous enough to register on the sarcasm/parody meter, given the much more outrageous nonsense I've seen posted on this board with 100% sincerity.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:Ya know, this entire thread...is really starting to irk me.
Matt, can we delete this whole thing? It's such an eye sore.
version sound wrote:Tell Craig to make sure that they are mastering it from the original masters.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:I knew a few girls who liked STT and went to their shows, and they mostly all thought Craig himself was gay, which I don't think he is. Unfortunately, you can't pick your audience, so he's stuck with straight white boneheads like me.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:I don't think anyone is arguing that PER is better than Ten Spot.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:version sound wrote:I don't think anyone is arguing that PER is better than Ten Spot.
I am lol
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
the mean wrote:PER is my favorite STT LP as well, and I saw STT in 1989 (my one and only time seeing them).
xxxMidgexxx wrote:the mean wrote:PER is my favorite STT LP as well, and I saw STT in 1989 (my one and only time seeing them).
the mean wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:the mean wrote:PER is my favorite STT LP as well, and I saw STT in 1989 (my one and only time seeing them).
I know. I wish I would have seen them in 1994.
version sound wrote:So, Dischord got some copies...
...and sold them all in a couple of hours
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:So, Dischord got some copies...
...and sold them all in a couple of hours
Should've jumped on this. Dang.
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