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johnnotkathi wrote:....ahhh...gotchya.....now I can speak American and some English too!!johnnotkathi wrote:bell end?
SamDBL wrote:Serious question since I am an ignoramus: what is all the 'trump is as bad as hitler' stuff all about? I know from years of TV and headlines that he is a lying, arrogant sob with no manners. But what is the racism charge that everyone is losing their minds over stemming from? Is it solely based on his position on illegal immigrants and his flippant statement about closing the boarders for Muslims? I'm asking seriously because I have only half way paid attention as this thing has blossomed from kind of a joke, to everyone on my friends list wanting to kill each other over this guy.
the mean wrote:Comparing people to Hitler is the new American way. Every politician gets compared to Hitler.
As for Trump and racism, generally:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+racist
the mean wrote:Also, about you Clinton being the original Birther comment:
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hi ... l-birther/
I'm not sure who "told" you that, or where you are getting your info from, but that sort of thing usually doesn't make it far outside of the brietbart.com comments section.
SamDBL wrote:And yet other articles suggest that, while not directly linked to Hillary, it was supporters of her campaign that initially brought it up.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/
Whether she can be held accountable for the actions of her underlings is a separate debate, I guess.
SamDBL wrote:A campaign volunteer is more than some random supporter. But again, totally beside the point I was making. As far as whether she should be considered copable in the actions of a supporter, j agree. She probably shouldn't. I just think that should apply across the board. The people that would consider the issue up for debate would/should be the same people that blame any pitician for the actions of his/her supporters. Which is another common theme in this race. Trump, in particular.
the mean wrote:SamDBL wrote:A campaign volunteer is more than some random supporter. But again, totally beside the point I was making. As far as whether she should be considered copable in the actions of a supporter, j agree. She probably shouldn't. I just think that should apply across the board. The people that would consider the issue up for debate would/should be the same people that blame any pitician for the actions of his/her supporters. Which is another common theme in this race. Trump, in particular.
The difference is that Trump is egging his supporters on in their violence.
clash77 wrote:For the record, I'm NOT a Trump supporter..He has a right to hold these rallies just like any other candidate.."Egging on his supporters on their violence"?..Hmmmm..What right do the "paid protesters" have to disrupt these rallies?..Peaceful protest?, sure,but that hasn't been the case recently..Is it possible that some of the people attending ate "undecided" at the moment?..How do we know they're all Trump supporters?..Maybe they just want to hear what the man has to say before they decide who to vote for.What about the "violent intentions" of the protesters in Chicago for example?..No one seems to mention that..Strange,isn't it?
SamDBL wrote:Not talking about the violence. I'm staying on topic about the charge of racism. I keep seeing condemnation of his supposedly racist supporters as a reflection on him. Even you, claiming that pandering to racist supporters is a racist action. I am simply saying that I haven't seen it heard any overt racism from him. I am not a supporter of him in the least. But after hearing him called racist and Hitler over and over, I asked someone here to clarify. The Google search has so far cemented what I had suspected. He's being called a racist because it sounds like a good thing to call him. But there is very little basis and a whole lot of leap jumping and gap filling. These are the sort of bullshit tactics that turned me from a solid left wing democrat, to firmly in the middle independent.
SamDBL wrote:I happen to think pandering to black panthers and black lives matter is as much promoting racism as anything else.
clash77 wrote:The Mean....So I can post a thread about a topic but according to you, I can't post any comments?.Is that correct?.Then you whine because you're unable to block me...Are you a child?..Or just a left wing bomb thrower?..I'm guessing both.Sorry for commenting without asking for permission..
the mean wrote:You are just as sweet as always.
the mean wrote:My worldview doesn't change because of what people of a certain political party say or do. My beliefs are my beliefs. You seem to be saying that you moved to the middle politically because of people calling out racism.
scannest wrote:I disagree with the sentiment completely and absolutely. There is nothing inherently racist about the Black Lives Matter movement
scannest wrote:and the use of the word 'pander' instead of..say, 'support' tells me exactly where you are coming from.
scannest wrote:And as far as the Hitler references go, I suspect Muslim/Islamic Americans have heard their share of rhetoric from Trump that certainly echoes what was being said about the Jews in Germany during Hitler's rise to power.
SamDBL wrote: I think that as a movement, it's already been fucked in the ass.
the mean wrote:I'm glad we were able to throw a little homophobia in the thread about racism.
jaybird wrote:SamDBL wrote: I think that as a movement, it's already been fucked in the ass.
This is offensive to power-bottoms.
clash77 wrote:....
the mean wrote:I feel like we are turning a corner, with both Sam DBL and Clash77 apologizing in this thread. Thanks, guys.
Also, the original post in this thread was probably Clash77's most insightful post on this board:clash77 wrote:....
clash77 wrote:the mean wrote:I feel like we are turning a corner, with both Sam DBL and Clash77 apologizing in this thread. Thanks, guys.
Also, the original post in this thread was probably Clash77's most insightful post on this board:clash77 wrote:....
I'm guessing you're 12 yrs old and female..Is that correct?
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