yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
I love The Effigies, but I have go with Naked Raygun here.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:You guys are totally forgetting that the band in my avatar is from Chicago. It's excusable though since none of them live there anymore.
yourenotevil wrote:JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
I love The Effigies, but I have go with Naked Raygun here.
i guess naked raygun put out more consistent records over a longer period of time, but i would regard them as the thin lizzy of hc in regards to the other thread. i kind of lost interest in the effigies after the first lp, but i would put anything on remains non viewable up against most of what people consider to the be the cream of the crop for early 80s hc.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
yourenotevil wrote:gregpolard wrote:You guys are totally forgetting that the band in my avatar is from Chicago. It's excusable though since none of them live there anymore.
chicago hc/rock is like the bears. they had a couple of really good years but most people want to forget about all of those losing seasons.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
I love The Effigies, but I have go with Naked Raygun here.
i guess naked raygun put out more consistent records over a longer period of time, but i would regard them as the thin lizzy of hc in regards to the other thread. i kind of lost interest in the effigies after the first lp, but i would put anything on remains non viewable up against most of what people consider to the be the cream of the crop for early 80s hc.
Hmm...All Rise, Jettison and Understand? don't have any skippable tracks IMO. I never really considered The Effigies a hardcore band, especially the later stuff, but they were more post-punk (or maybe 2nd wave UK punk; specifically The Ruts) influenced than anything even in the early days.
JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
I love The Effigies, but I have go with Naked Raygun here.
Anyway, thanks for this, James.
JGJR wrote:I never really considered The Effigies a hardcore band, especially the later stuff, but they were more post-punk (or maybe 2nd wave UK punk; specifically The Ruts) influenced than anything even in the early days.
MXV wrote:JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
I love The Effigies, but I have go with Naked Raygun here.
Anyway, thanks for this, James.
This. Naked Raygun were super heroes in this City and still are. The Effigies were great but nowhere near as great as NR. I also think AOF were better than the Effigies but it's an awfully close race.
My only problem with The Effigies is that I saw them so many times since they reformed that I actually got tired of them. It didn't help that every show they played the exact same set. They never put on a bad show, I just suffered from overexposure. First world problems.
MXV wrote:JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
I love The Effigies, but I have go with Naked Raygun here.
Anyway, thanks for this, James.
This. Naked Raygun were super heroes in this City and still are. The Effigies were great but nowhere near as great as NR. I also think AOF were better than the Effigies but it's an awfully close race.
My only problem with The Effigies is that I saw them so many times since they reformed that I actually got tired of them. It didn't help that every show they played the exact same set. They never put on a bad show, I just suffered from overexposure. First world problems.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
earthdog70 wrote:Thanks Jimmy. I will have to give this a shot later. Can't download from Chrome or Firefox for some reason
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:I never really considered The Effigies a hardcore band, especially the later stuff, but they were more post-punk (or maybe 2nd wave UK punk; specifically The Ruts) influenced than anything even in the early days.
Of course they were a 'hardcore' band. Qualified by the where and the when. Revisionist bollocks is rife these days fair play. Of course they had U.K. Oi!/punk influences, and later decided to pay homage to Killing Joke, but many other bands that were 'hardcore' had wildly differing influences from each other and were still considered as such.
Naked Raygun were incredible, as were AoF. All 'hardcore' bands in their day.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:MXV wrote:JGJR wrote:yourenotevil wrote:thanks, still the number one band from chicago. i think they have at least a few songs that never got recorded, or maybe it was a demo that never got released, still hear different stories about there being one.
I love The Effigies, but I have go with Naked Raygun here.
Anyway, thanks for this, James.
This. Naked Raygun were super heroes in this City and still are. The Effigies were great but nowhere near as great as NR. I also think AOF were better than the Effigies but it's an awfully close race.
My only problem with The Effigies is that I saw them so many times since they reformed that I actually got tired of them. It didn't help that every show they played the exact same set. They never put on a bad show, I just suffered from overexposure. First world problems.
I back your first paragraph completely. I will take the material on AOF'sCore next to just about any NR recording and that's saying something. I like AOF's Lps, too, but there's something special about those 7"s and comp tracks that still does it for me.
I mentioned this on the old board, but I have only seen The Effigies once since they almost never come east and I drove two hours to Hoboken to see them at Maxwell's back in 2008. I'm glad I did because they were great and I got meet John Kezdy after the show. He's a very nice guy, despite what Vic or others would say about him..
JGJR wrote:Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:I never really considered The Effigies a hardcore band, especially the later stuff, but they were more post-punk (or maybe 2nd wave UK punk; specifically The Ruts) influenced than anything even in the early days.
Of course they were a 'hardcore' band. Qualified by the where and the when. Revisionist bollocks is rife these days fair play. Of course they had U.K. Oi!/punk influences, and later decided to pay homage to Killing Joke, but many other bands that were 'hardcore' had wildly differing influences from each other and were still considered as such.
Naked Raygun were incredible, as were AoF. All 'hardcore' bands in their day.
OK fair enough. I guess what I really meant was that they were (same as NR or AOF) were never a thrash band not like in thrash metal but as in like generic speedy hardcore, etc.
akissfan wrote:No love for Life Sentence?
MXV wrote:akissfan wrote:No love for Life Sentence?
They came later so they were a later generation. Excellent band totally ruined by drugs and lawsuits.
akissfan wrote:MXV wrote:akissfan wrote:No love for Life Sentence?
They came later so they were a later generation. Excellent band totally ruined by drugs and lawsuits.
You probably don't remember, but the first time I met you was at a LS show you were shooting at Reggie's. I was playing drums with LS, played with The Effigies. The Freeze were suppose to play but they never made it.
MXV wrote:That's right! This is not a knock on you but that was the emptiest I've ever seen Reggies when I've been there. I can't remember if other shows were happening that night or what but I was shocked by how few people showed up for it, but then I was more shocked by how bad Eric looked. That also may have been the last time or one of the last times I saw The Effigies.
I'm bummed that The Freeze cancelled. I've never seen them and from what I hear they decided to call it a day and stop playing now.
MXV wrote:akissfan wrote:MXV wrote:
I'm bummed that The Freeze cancelled. I've never seen them and from what I hear they decided to call it a day and stop playing now.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:MXV wrote:akissfan wrote:MXV wrote:
I'm bummed that The Freeze cancelled. I've never seen them and from what I hear they decided to call it a day and stop playing now.
That's too bad. Clif and his wife seem to be having major legal problems.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:MXV wrote:akissfan wrote:MXV wrote:
I'm bummed that The Freeze cancelled. I've never seen them and from what I hear they decided to call it a day and stop playing now.
That's too bad. Clif and his wife seem to be having major legal problems.
I'm sorry to hear that. Why?
akissfan wrote:MXV wrote:That's right! This is not a knock on you but that was the emptiest I've ever seen Reggies when I've been there. I can't remember if other shows were happening that night or what but I was shocked by how few people showed up for it, but then I was more shocked by how bad Eric looked. That also may have been the last time or one of the last times I saw The Effigies.
I'm bummed that The Freeze cancelled. I've never seen them and from what I hear they decided to call it a day and stop playing now.
You're telling me...I was bummed as well. I really thought an Effigies/Life Sentence bill would bring some people in. Very disappointed. I remember they had an early matinee show before we played (bunch of kid bands) and then after we were done they kicked everybody out for a national act that I can't remember the name of. Place picked up quite a bit by the time they hit the stage. Cool place. I would definitely like to play there again.
Yes, Eric had got into a fight 2 nights before so he had quite a "shiner" going on. Pretty funny story behind it but I won't get into it.
I ended up leaving the band a short time later. The commute was just too much (as well as some other reasons) but I had a hell of a time while it lasted.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:MXV wrote:akissfan wrote:MXV wrote:
I'm bummed that The Freeze cancelled. I've never seen them and from what I hear they decided to call it a day and stop playing now.
That's too bad. Clif and his wife seem to be having major legal problems.
I'm sorry to hear that. Why?
Google Clifton Croce and Maricopa.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
MXV wrote:Is Eric still living in an underpass or does he actually have a home now and is he clean? I don't think that band played out much again after that Reggie's show did they? I didn't hear of any other shows.
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