gregpolard wrote:I think "One" is a great song.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:Alright, VS - your MLK analogy is so fucking off base that I have officially given up on debating this issue. I'm too exhausted to expend the energy explaining how wrong-headed you are.
So, I guess...you win? Congrats.
EDIT - damn, I can't believe I caused this thread to go to 4 pages.
version sound wrote:Is it okay to have tax shelters if you aren't percieved as a liberal crusader of some sort?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:Is it okay to have tax shelters if you aren't percieved as a liberal crusader of some sort?
False equivalence; no one has said that.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:Is it okay to have tax shelters if you aren't percieved as a liberal crusader of some sort?
False equivalence; no one has said that.
Nothing false about it. You are justifying your opinion of Bono based on this very fact. You yourself basically said "this article says it all". So, do you dislike other rock stars with personal faults, or do you bend over backwards to justify why they don't bother you because you don't want to dislike them?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:If you would like U2’s Songs of Innocence removed from your iTunes music library and iTunes purchases, you can choose to have it removed. Once the album has been removed from your account, it will no longer be available for you to redownload as a previous purchase. If you later decide you want the album, you will need to get it again. The album is free to everyone until October 13, 2014 and will be available for purchase after that date.
Do you want to remove Songs of Innocence from your account?
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scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
yourenotevil wrote:how did this get to page 4?
version sound wrote:yourenotevil wrote:how did this get to page 4?
Mainly with people bitching and complaining about Bono and U2. Four page threads are otherwise limited to new and relevant bands, like Bad Religion.
yourenotevil wrote:well, at least three people have a unifying sense of what they hate.
version sound wrote:Here's my final thought, Jerry Springer style: this record is as much a mirror as it is a canvas. Cynical record reviewer types and people who revel in hating U2 will find plenty to hate, because this is very much a U2 record, maybe the U2iest record in decades. The reviewer for Drowned in Sound tipped his hand by writing "The singles off All That You Can’t Leave Behind are dreadful...". Really? I find it hard to believe that anyone could honestly think "Beautiful Day" is dreadful. I'm not a huge fan of that record, but that song is objectively great. So, this is a guy who is clearly not a fan. On the flipside, there are a LOT of people who liked U2 at some point in their lives who are enjoying a U2 record for the first time in years, if not decades. I don't think that experience should be easily dismissed. We are not talking about diehard fans who will find something to love in every U2 record. I personally more or less gave up on them over 20 years ago. I didn't even know their last record existed until they talked about it on You Talkin' U2 To Me?. To claim that I am somehow biased towards the band in 2014 is an unbelievable stretch. I'm hearing everything the critics are hearing and it's all very U2, but not the U2 who started believing their own hype decades ago. I'm hearing the U2 of the early days who are writing songs about thier own lives rather than trying to make universal statements. I hear a band that is actually feeling what they are playing for the first time in a long time. I think that Man would have been a more descriptive (though ridiculous and too on the nose)title for this record, because what I'm hearing is the band who recorded Boy all grown up, but realizing that they really haven't changed much. All the things that were important then are still the things that define them as human beings today, notwithstanding the 30 odd years that have passed in between. If you don't have a more than casual connection with U2, you probably won't notice or won't care, but I do, and I did.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
version sound wrote: If you don't have a more than casual connection with U2, you probably won't notice or won't care, but I do, and I did.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:Also, this album absolutely did that VS. It reminded me of why I once loved them so much. I had always been into their singles and then around senior year of h.s. I bought "Joshua Tree" and "Unforgettable Fire" (no coincidence that they became my favorite albums of theirs) and then ended up getting the whole catalog. Since 2000, I've bought every new album they've released (not that there's been that many) and this is the best of that bunch.
gregpolard wrote:I'm honestly amazed that you (JGJR) aren't in love with at least the first 5 LPs.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:gregpolard wrote:Also, this album absolutely did that VS. It reminded me of why I once loved them so much. I had always been into their singles and then around senior year of h.s. I bought "Joshua Tree" and "Unforgettable Fire" (no coincidence that they became my favorite albums of theirs) and then ended up getting the whole catalog. Since 2000, I've bought every new album they've released (not that there's been that many) and this is the best of that bunch.
I was already revisiting the back catalog when this one came out, so this was good timing for me. The fist five albums are all great. I'm surprised when anyone with an interest in post-punk/new wave/indie rock doesn't like at least the first three.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:I'm honestly amazed that you (JGJR) aren't in love with at least the first 5 LPs.
It's just one of those things. In theory, given my tastes I SHOULD love them and maybe I should revisit them or try to get into them again, but I have a feeling that it's something you have to grow up with to really get/appreciate on that level (or maybe not).
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:Speak for yourself. I never get tired of "Pride". One of my favorite songs, ever.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:Speak for yourself. I never get tired of "Pride". One of my favorite songs, ever.
Yeah I like that one a lot, too.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:Speak for yourself. I never get tired of "Pride". One of my favorite songs, ever.
Yeah I like that one a lot, too.
It's a great song, but it's like "Purple Haze" to me at this point. I enjoy it when I hear it, but don't often seek it out because I've heard it hundreds and hundreds of times since it came out.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
version sound wrote:A live version from Under a Blod Red Sky came out in 1983. That might be the one you remember.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:I want them on vinyl.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:I want them on vinyl.
The OGs are easy enough to find, I'd imagine. I could be wrong, though.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:I want them on vinyl.
The OGs are easy enough to find, I'd imagine. I could be wrong, though.
Yep. I see them often. I'm keeping my eyes peeled.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:I want them on vinyl.
The OGs are easy enough to find, I'd imagine. I could be wrong, though.
Yep. I see them often. I'm keeping my eyes peeled.
I will check to see which ones we have tonight. I'm pretty sure we're missing one or two of the '80s ones since she made have had those on cassette or something as a kid.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:JGJR wrote:gregpolard wrote:I want them on vinyl.
The OGs are easy enough to find, I'd imagine. I could be wrong, though.
Yep. I see them often. I'm keeping my eyes peeled.
I will check to see which ones we have tonight. I'm pretty sure we're missing one or two of the '80s ones since she made have had those on cassette or something as a kid.
That does me no good.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Welly wrote:I have a UK original press of Rattle and Hum sat here from the old shop bargain bin if anyone wants it for postage.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:Ed Roach wrote:I really like the new album (hooked after the 3rd listen) seems a bit of a departure from the big riffs....more of a 'pop' feel.
I'm one of those who loved the 90s U2, the whole experimentation, etc.
I’ve been revisiting the catalog a lot lately, and plan on hitting some of those 90’s albums soon.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
Ed Roach wrote:After listening to this album about a dozen times in the past week, here's my take on it, song by song...
The Miracle (Of Joey Ramone) - makes sense they would lead off the album with this, but not the best song on the album.
Every Breaking Wave - written for No Line...but didn't make the cut. I like how it builds up a bit with a good melody.
California - a great pop song, should be a single.
Song For Someone - a nice little ditty about meeting his wife...will probably be in the live set on the next tour.
Iris (Hold Me Close) - the fifth song about his mother in the U2 catalog. As personal as they get, without being 'sappy'.
Volcano - sounds like all those 'hip' bands of the moment (read- Arcade Fire, Metric, Franz Ferdinand), another good pop song.
Raised By Wolves - has a 'modern take of the October album' feel to it, the melody here reminds me of that album.
Cedarwood Road - written about the same guy that 'Bad' was about (apparently) and the heaviest they have probably ever sounded.
Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - the worst song on the album, should have been left on the cutting room floor.
This Is Where You Can Reach Me Now - another tribute, this time about The Clash. A little too 'poppy' to be about 'The Only Band That Matters'.
The Troubles - I like the female vocals...not a bad way to close the album.
The next album (Song Of Experience) will probably have 'Invisible' and 'Ordinary Love' on it...hopefully The Edge has some big riffs set aside for this one....
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
WrEtcH wrote: BUT if yer gonna do a song tribute to Joey Ramone, why not rip off the RAMONES again like you did on "Vertigo" (which I like) instead of trying to out whine COLDPLAY?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:WrEtcH wrote: BUT if yer gonna do a song tribute to Joey Ramone, why not rip off the RAMONES again like you did on "Vertigo" (which I like) instead of trying to out whine COLDPLAY?
So much this.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
JGJR wrote:WrEtcH wrote: BUT if yer gonna do a song tribute to Joey Ramone, why not rip off the RAMONES again like you did on "Vertigo" (which I like) instead of trying to out whine COLDPLAY?
So much this.
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