version sound wrote:Best hardcore band of all time? Probably.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:Legit not sure I've ever listened to Discharge.
version sound wrote:Seriously, Greg, HNSNSN is basically a perfect record.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
MXV wrote:Maybe it was when I first heard the band in comparison to other hardcore bands of that era but I wouldn't even put them in my top 100. They just never did it for me.
version sound wrote:MXV wrote:Maybe it was when I first heard the band in comparison to other hardcore bands of that era but I wouldn't even put them in my top 100. They just never did it for me.
I can't understand that at all. I've owned HNSNSN for 30 years (same copy, which says something considering how few hardcore records I DIDN'T sell over the years), and it still blows me away. The guitars are MASSIVE. There must be three or four stacked guitar tracks on each track. It sounds miles ahead of anything else from that era.
gregpolard wrote:Legit not sure I've ever listened to Discharge.
yourenotevil wrote:gregpolard wrote:Legit not sure I've ever listened to Discharge.
if you don't listen to discharge right now and put on fall out boy or paramore instead i would personally fly to philly and have you tarred and feathered.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
yourenotevil wrote:in the 90s, dis- bands became a bad living joke.
Gary wrote:version sound wrote:Best hardcore band of all time? Probably.
It's kinda hard to argue against that.
MXV wrote:Maybe it was when I first heard the band in comparison to other hardcore bands of that era but I wouldn't even put them in my top 100. They just never did it for me.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
yourenotevil wrote: i can't say much for their fans or most of the bands they inspired though. in the 90s, dis- bands became a bad living joke.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
WrEtcH wrote: DISCHARGE wasn't really a metal influenced punk act (if that made any sense,)
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:MXV wrote:Maybe it was when I first heard the band in comparison to other hardcore bands of that era but I wouldn't even put them in my top 100. They just never did it for me.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. They are OK, but are seriously the most overrated HC band of all time IMO aside from maybe SSD or YoT.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:MXV wrote:Maybe it was when I first heard the band in comparison to other hardcore bands of that era but I wouldn't even put them in my top 100. They just never did it for me.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. They are OK, but are seriously the most overrated HC band of all time IMO aside from maybe SSD or YoT.
Who's the deaf one now? Soul Side is great and Discharge and SSD are overrated...uh huh, suuuuure.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
MXV wrote:Maybe it was when I first heard the band in comparison to other hardcore bands of that era but I wouldn't even put them in my top 100. They just never did it for me.
JGJR wrote:WrEtcH wrote: DISCHARGE wasn't really a metal influenced punk act (if that made any sense,)
They were if you consider Motorhead to be a metal band (I know Lemmy doesn't, but still...). I'm not much of a crossover fan, so that's another part of my issue with them...
WrEtcH wrote:it was Ron Quintana over here that played a lot of DISCHARGE on Rampage Radio that caught the ears of METALLICA and a lot of metal heads that was the early phases of crossover even though DISCHARGE wasn't really a metal influenced punk act (if that made any sense,) but yeah that's how I got into DISCHARGE and most punk (along w/ the RAMONES & other punk acts.)
Loved "Hear Nothing" and "Never Again." Saw 'em during that infamous "Grave World" gig at the Farm w/ D.R.I. ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT and POSSESSED where a garbage can was thrown on stage while DISCHARGE was playing. when they reunited w/o Cal fared better.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:WrEtcH wrote: DISCHARGE wasn't really a metal influenced punk act (if that made any sense,)
They were if you consider Motorhead to be a metal band (I know Lemmy doesn't, but still...). I'm not much of a crossover fan, so that's another part of my issue with them...
See, the fact that you even mention crossover tells me that you don't know WTF you're talking about (no offense) WRT Discharge. They were NEVER a crossover band. They made one record of ill-considered heavy metal, but never played crossover. They influenced metal more than it ever influenced them.
version sound wrote:Best hardcore band of all time? Probably. If you don't own at least Why, Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing and Never Again (LP, not single), what's wrong with you? Seriously, I would like go know.
version sound wrote:Best hardcore band of all time? Probably. If you don't own at least Why, Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing and Never Again (LP, not single), what's wrong with you? Seriously, I would like go know.
WrEtcH wrote:if yer pertaining to me, I knew that. I always lumped DISCHARGE w/ G.B.H. & EXPLOITED. what they did was gain a metal audience in these parts and like you mentioned, influenced many metal bands and many crossover act.
if yer talking to JGJR, never mind my blabber
tango fistula wrote:Never been a big fan of British punk circa 1981-1985 so Discharge
never really moved me. I like/liked Rudimentary Peni better.
Poison Idea to me took the Discharge template and made it a true monster.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:WrEtcH wrote: DISCHARGE wasn't really a metal influenced punk act (if that made any sense,)
They were if you consider Motorhead to be a metal band (I know Lemmy doesn't, but still...). I'm not much of a crossover fan, so that's another part of my issue with them...
See, the fact that you even mention crossover tells me that you don't know WTF you're talking about (no offense) WRT Discharge. They were NEVER a crossover band. They made one record of ill-considered heavy metal, but never played crossover. They influenced metal more than it ever influenced them.
version sound wrote:John, while you are entitled to your opinion about their live show, I don't know if you're confused about the details, or just plain wrong. Wattie was in the Exploited. To the best of my recollection, Discharge never mentioned "Maggie" in a single song. You are seriously going to criticize their lyrics circa 1982? At worst, they had a one track mind, as all their lyrics were (broadly speaking) about war. The lyrics on HNSNSN are almost poetic in their concision and impact. I'm not sure there was ever a more effective line in punk rock than "Q: And children? A: And children" in a song about the horrors of war. For the record, here are the ridiculous lyrics for "Why?":
Beside her man she kneels Holds him tight and begins to cry
Why why why but why
Her loved one's just another piece of meat On the battlefields
Why why why but why
Her cries break out into screams As she now becomes hysterical with grief
Why why why but why
Her loved one's just anotherpiece of meat On the battlefields
Why why why but why
Not as masterful or deep as the kind of teen drama most hardcore bands were writing about, I know.
version sound wrote:I'm not a huge fan of the early EPs, which is what most of the Dis bands seemed to base thier sound on. I don't think they really hit their stride until Decontrol. I don't know how influenced they were by metal early on. There really weren't many metal bands playing like that before HNSNSN. They weren't afraid of guitar leads or heaviness, which weren't typical hardcore traits at the time. Was anyone in metal or punk playing those fast atonal solos before Discharge, other than Ginn?
version sound wrote:WrEtcH wrote:if yer pertaining to me, I knew that. I always lumped DISCHARGE w/ G.B.H. & EXPLOITED. what they did was gain a metal audience in these parts and like you mentioned, influenced many metal bands and many crossover act.
if yer talking to JGJR, never mind my blabber
I was talking to JGJR. You know exactly what was up on the punk/metal front.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:WrEtcH wrote: DISCHARGE wasn't really a metal influenced punk act (if that made any sense,)
They were if you consider Motorhead to be a metal band (I know Lemmy doesn't, but still...). I'm not much of a crossover fan, so that's another part of my issue with them...
See, the fact that you even mention crossover tells me that you don't know WTF you're talking about (no offense) WRT Discharge. They were NEVER a crossover band. They made one record of ill-considered heavy metal, but never played crossover. They influenced metal more than it ever influenced them.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
tango fistula wrote:Poison Idea to me took the Discharge template and made it a true monster.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Welly wrote:version sound wrote:Best hardcore band of all time? Probably. If you don't own at least Why, Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing and Never Again (LP, not single), what's wrong with you? Seriously, I would like go know.
Most influential, I'd say yes, 'best' is a flawed concept.
JGJR wrote:tango fistula wrote:Poison Idea to me took the Discharge template and made it a true monster.
I couldn't agree with you more here. Discharge is like the punk version of Bruce Springsteen in that I like some of the bands they influenced (not just PI, but also Negative Approach and others) way more than the band/artist themselves. For instance, I like Graham Parker and Elvis Costello much more than Springsteen, but he also spawned lame imitators, too (just like Discharge did).
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:tango fistula wrote:Poison Idea to me took the Discharge template and made it a true monster.
I couldn't agree with you more here. Discharge is like the punk version of Bruce Springsteen in that I like some of the bands they influenced (not just PI, but also Negative Approach and others) way more than the band/artist themselves. For instance, I like Graham Parker and Elvis Costello much more than Springsteen, but he also spawned lame imitators, too (just like Discharge did).
I'm guessing that this is just another case of you speaking before you really listen. "They are so overrated" often seems to equate with "I've never really listened to them much". Do you own HNSNSN? Have you ever?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
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