77clash wrote:Mod Revival by miles512 for me.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
77clash wrote:Mod Revival by miles512 for me.
patient_ot wrote:I love the Jam and the Chords, but I'm much more of a fan of UK post-punk.
The other day I watched a short doc on the mod revival. My main takeaway was that it really wasn't necessarily about "mod revival" type bands,but more about reviving the mod style, interest in things like Northern Soul (and classic 60s soul/r&b in general)...for that the whole scene deserves way more credit than it gets...
JGJR wrote:Y'all are both NVTS nuts. British post-punk by leaps and bounds. I love the UK mod revival stuff, but other than The Jam, The Vapors and maybe The Chords and in more recent years, The Rifles and Len Price 3, I don't think it's produced any truly great bands.
Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Y'all are both NVTS nuts. British post-punk by leaps and bounds. I love the UK mod revival stuff, but other than The Jam, The Vapors and maybe The Chords and in more recent years, The Rifles and Len Price 3, I don't think it's produced any truly great bands.
Er, hello? Lambrettas put out arguably the best '79 era mod revival LP outside the Jam and Vapors.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Y'all are both NVTS nuts. British post-punk by leaps and bounds. I love the UK mod revival stuff, but other than The Jam, The Vapors and maybe The Chords and in more recent years, The Rifles and Len Price 3, I don't think it's produced any truly great bands.
Er, hello? Lambrettas put out arguably the best '79 era mod revival LP outside the Jam and Vapors.
Lambrettas, Secret Affair, Purple Hearts, et al. always seemed like 2nd-tier mod revival bands to me, but maybe I should revisit that Lp.
Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Y'all are both NVTS nuts. British post-punk by leaps and bounds. I love the UK mod revival stuff, but other than The Jam, The Vapors and maybe The Chords and in more recent years, The Rifles and Len Price 3, I don't think it's produced any truly great bands.
Er, hello? Lambrettas put out arguably the best '79 era mod revival LP outside the Jam and Vapors.
Lambrettas, Secret Affair, Purple Hearts, et al. always seemed like 2nd-tier mod revival bands to me, but maybe I should revisit that Lp.
Beat Boys in the Jet Age - you shouldn't need to revisit it mate.
Secret Affair only wrote the anthem of the time.
Chords, Purple Hearts, Merton Parkas etc. were primarily singles bands, so struggled to make albums, usually ending up with one too many covers.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Y'all are both NVTS nuts. British post-punk by leaps and bounds. I love the UK mod revival stuff, but other than The Jam, The Vapors and maybe The Chords and in more recent years, The Rifles and Len Price 3, I don't think it's produced any truly great bands.
Er, hello? Lambrettas put out arguably the best '79 era mod revival LP outside the Jam and Vapors.
Lambrettas, Secret Affair, Purple Hearts, et al. always seemed like 2nd-tier mod revival bands to me, but maybe I should revisit that Lp.
Beat Boys in the Jet Age - you shouldn't need to revisit it mate.
Secret Affair only wrote the anthem of the time.
Chords, Purple Hearts, Merton Parkas etc. were primarily singles bands, so struggled to make albums, usually ending up with one too many covers.
3 words for you: So Far Away.
Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:Y'all are both NVTS nuts. British post-punk by leaps and bounds. I love the UK mod revival stuff, but other than The Jam, The Vapors and maybe The Chords and in more recent years, The Rifles and Len Price 3, I don't think it's produced any truly great bands.
Er, hello? Lambrettas put out arguably the best '79 era mod revival LP outside the Jam and Vapors.
Lambrettas, Secret Affair, Purple Hearts, et al. always seemed like 2nd-tier mod revival bands to me, but maybe I should revisit that Lp.
Beat Boys in the Jet Age - you shouldn't need to revisit it mate.
Secret Affair only wrote the anthem of the time.
Chords, Purple Hearts, Merton Parkas etc. were primarily singles bands, so struggled to make albums, usually ending up with one too many covers.
3 words for you: So Far Away.
I like it, but it's patchy. Compared to Lambrettas it's a damp squib. How would've it fared without their two Top of the Pops hits leading out each side?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Welly wrote:Can't really blame them, but they didn't have the material. Compare it to the Lambrettas only real hit being their cover of 'Poison Ivy' which turned out to be unrepresentative of and weaker than their other material. The rest of the album outshines the hit. Line up the Jam say 'Setting Sons', Vapors 'New Clear Days' and Lambrettas 'Beat Boys' and that's arguably the best three of the time. Vapors though, weren't really considered '79 mod revival even if Foxton was their manager and they toured with the Jam. They didn't seem to align themselves with it, more of a happy accident - just lucky Jam fans. Oh, and 'New Clear Days' in the U.S. was scrambled for the U.S. market with 'Turning Japanese' leading and (funnily enough) the tracks 'Cold War' and 'America' removed with the early single 'Prisoners' added. If you want to hear it properly, you need to check out the U.K. version. That is all.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:UPDATE: They did in fact restore the UK track order, but anyway I heard the CD version first so those songs are definitely indispensable. That was a very common thing. I was just talking to Greg off-list about the early Elvis Costello albums and how they had different track orders in the UK and US, same for The Clash, Generation X, et al.
Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:UPDATE: They did in fact restore the UK track order, but anyway I heard the CD version first so those songs are definitely indispensable. That was a very common thing. I was just talking to Greg off-list about the early Elvis Costello albums and how they had different track orders in the UK and US, same for The Clash, Generation X, et al.
Yeah, to make it more palatable for U.S. consumers. A bit like how they'd change the name of U.S. confectionary in the 60's/70's for the U.K.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:Yeah I generally think the U.S. versions in some cases like the first Clash Lp are botches (as Greil Marcus called it in one of his books) and I think it was criminal to take out "(I Don't Want to Go to) Chelsea" from the running order of This Year's Model's second side (and to take "48 Hours" off the 1st Clash Lp; I can honestly take or leave the others they took out, but still prefer the UK running order even though I heard the US one first), but in some cases it improves the Lp like with the 1st Generation X Lp.
patient_ot wrote:I really like a lot of the old 60s mod rock stuff like early Kinks (tho I love their "twee" albums also), the Creation, the Eyes, early Who (first 3 lps only), the Action, Small Faces, etc.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
JGJR wrote:patient_ot wrote:I really like a lot of the old 60s mod rock stuff like early Kinks (tho I love their "twee" albums also), the Creation, the Eyes, early Who (first 3 lps only), the Action, Small Faces, etc.
I like most of these bands, too (don't think I have ever heard the Eyes unless you mean the late '70s LA punk band). The Kinks were perfect up to and including Muswell Hillbillies.
ha no wrong john!! talking to Warrior there Stabb..john stabb wrote:clash77 wrote -
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that you john??"
Nope, not me. But I don't think there were very many worthy of attention Brit Mod Revival groups, either. The Jam were the best of them all but they did have a load of Punk in them, too. There were a few decent songs in their by Housemartins, Secret Affair, The Jolt and the Chords. I've yet to hear the Vapors debut other than "Turning Japanese" but I'm curious. Other than that, 70% of the others were really throwaway in the cut-out bins. Brit Post Punk has to win by at least a dozen bands. At least it does for me.
john stabb wrote:clash77 wrote -
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that you john??"
Nope, not me. But I don't think there were very many worthy of attention Brit Mod Revival groups, either. The Jam were the best of them all but they did have a load of Punk in them, too. There were a few decent songs in their by Housemartins, Secret Affair, The Jolt and the Chords. I've yet to hear the Vapors debut other than "Turning Japanese" but I'm curious. Other than that, 70% of the others were really throwaway in the cut-out bins. Brit Post Punk has to win by at least a dozen bands. At least it does for me.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
john stabb wrote:Housemartins
john stabb wrote:Brit Post Punk has to win by at least a dozen bands. At least it does for me.
Welly wrote:john stabb wrote:Housemartins
80's indie band.john stabb wrote:Brit Post Punk has to win by at least a dozen bands. At least it does for me.
Obviously, but mod revival is essentially post-punk anyway so...
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:it's kinda Jam-lite
A perfect song..wish this band had released an lp at the time..Welly wrote:JGJR wrote:it's kinda Jam-lite
C'mon, there was a lot more to them that. The Chords were Jam-lite (or Jam with Foxton on vocals).
Was wondering why no-one had mentioned Squire, so...
Beggar (Mods Mayday - kinda Dr. Feelgood)? Manual Scan (San Diego, zine editor Bart Mendoza)? Bureaucrats (OK, so they were UK punk brothers who moved to Canada, but the art and this killer song have a definite '79 mod feel)...
clash77 wrote:Ed Ball and his first few bands..The Times..Television Personalities..O level.Teenage Filmstars....Then there's Creation records but I'm not a fan of much on that label..
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
patient_ot wrote:I know that they came a bit later, so maybe they weren't technically part of the Mod Revival, but The Prisoners sound very 60s mod-influenced to my ears. I've got their first 3 albums as cd reissues and think they're all pretty good.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Ha yea matt, About TVP, I agree but felt I should mention them along with his other bands which were certainly Mod revival bands..As for Creation, again, I agree.not much there for me but I believe he had a role in start of that label..Just thought Id mention it anyway..A few bands I know of that had releases on the label that you might know..Jesus and Mary Chain(whom I like) Bmx Bandits..Swervedriver..neither of these do a thing for me though.JGJR wrote:clash77 wrote:Ed Ball and his first few bands..The Times..Television Personalities..O level.Teenage Filmstars....Then there's Creation records but I'm not a fan of much on that label..
TVP were definitely not mod revival, but an enormous and generally unacknowledged influence on the '80s and beyond UK indie scene (Creation, et al. which you noted) as well as all indie-pop, twee, et al. I don't know their stuff that well, honestly, but I really like what I've heard. Jens Lekman, The Clientele, Futureheads and many others have covered their songs. I know Hunter will disagree, but he will just have to get schooled on them at lunch.
patient_ot wrote:JGJR wrote:patient_ot wrote:I really like a lot of the old 60s mod rock stuff like early Kinks (tho I love their "twee" albums also), the Creation, the Eyes, early Who (first 3 lps only), the Action, Small Faces, etc.
I like most of these bands, too (don't think I have ever heard the Eyes unless you mean the late '70s LA punk band). The Kinks were perfect up to and including Muswell Hillbillies.
I like Muswell too...the Eyes I'm referring to:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/369463-Eyes-The
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
clash77 wrote:Ha yea matt, About TVP, I agree but felt I should mention them along with his other bands which were certainly Mod revival bands..As for Creation, again, I agree.not much there for me but I believe he had a role in start of that label..Just thought Id mention it anyway..A few bands I know of that had releases on the label that you might know..Jesus and Mary Chain(whom I like) Bmx Bandits..Swervedriver..neither of these do a thing for me though.JGJR wrote:clash77 wrote:Ed Ball and his first few bands..The Times..Television Personalities..O level.Teenage Filmstars....Then there's Creation records but I'm not a fan of much on that label..
TVP were definitely not mod revival, but an enormous and generally unacknowledged influence on the '80s and beyond UK indie scene (Creation, et al. which you noted) as well as all indie-pop, twee, et al. I don't know their stuff that well, honestly, but I really like what I've heard. Jens Lekman, The Clientele, Futureheads and many others have covered their songs. I know Hunter will disagree, but he will just have to get schooled on them at lunch.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:clash77 wrote:Ed Ball and his first few bands..The Times..Television Personalities..O level.Teenage Filmstars....Then there's Creation records but I'm not a fan of much on that label..
TVP were definitely not mod revival, but an enormous and generally unacknowledged influence on the '80s and beyond UK indie scene (Creation, et al. which you noted) as well as all indie-pop, twee, et al. I don't know their stuff that well, honestly, but I really like what I've heard. Jens Lekman, The Clientele, Futureheads and many others have covered their songs. I know Hunter will disagree, but he will just have to get schooled on them at lunch.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:JGJR wrote:clash77 wrote:Ed Ball and his first few bands..The Times..Television Personalities..O level.Teenage Filmstars....Then there's Creation records but I'm not a fan of much on that label..
TVP were definitely not mod revival, but an enormous and generally unacknowledged influence on the '80s and beyond UK indie scene (Creation, et al. which you noted) as well as all indie-pop, twee, et al. I don't know their stuff that well, honestly, but I really like what I've heard. Jens Lekman, The Clientele, Futureheads and many others have covered their songs. I know Hunter will disagree, but he will just have to get schooled on them at lunch.
I love the Television Personalities. The guy who taught me how to play bass was in a band that were on Dan Treacy's label.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
john stabb wrote:A few things I wanted to add: I think of "Happy Hour" by Housemartins as a Mod-revival song, not their other material so perhaps I spoke too soon. And I like Modest Proposal (from DC area) with our own Hankskin on bass. Maybe I haven't heard some of the better Mod-revival bands so I'll have to look into that. The ones I've heard on those 80's comps really didn't do much for me.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
john stabb wrote:clash77, I really dig that Bureaucrats song Singer sounds like Jimmy in "Quadrophenia" aka Phil Daniels of "Parklife" voice-over. I am going to look into these lads.
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