version sound wrote:Victim in Pain has pretty much always been the pinnacle of NYHC for me. The closest I got to the REV generation was the Crippled Youth EP.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
MXV wrote:AF were definitely 1000000x better than Cro-Mags. It's no secret I think the Cro-Mags is one of the most overrated bands in history.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:I LOVE the last BOLD 7". Best thing those guys did.
As for NYHC I mean...VIP is classic, as is Age of Quarrel. Both are flawless NYHC records. Oftentimes my favorite of the bunch is Sheer Terror though. Amazing band musically and ESPECIALLY lyrically.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
gregpolard wrote:MXV wrote:AF were definitely 1000000x better than Cro-Mags. It's no secret I think the Cro-Mags is one of the most overrated bands in history.
Based on the fact that they only have one great album, one good and the rest EH, I can see this.
tango fistula wrote:I consider AOD as much a NYC band as a suburban NJHC band...they might be
the only band adopted by both NYC and CT.
Cro-Mags, to me, sounds like a band doing their best Bad Brains imitation.
Did it work? Yeah I think they pulled it off well...not as good as Jingo de Lunch did (the blueprint for them being "I Against I")
but Cro-Mags did their version of the RIOR tape then went straight into Motorhead territory
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
clash77 wrote:version sound wrote:Victim in Pain has pretty much always been the pinnacle of NYHC for me. The closest I got to the REV generation was the Crippled Youth EP.
I like that record as well VS( Crippled youth..later Bold)..also agree with the AF reference but so many other records/demos that I like also...Remember the Biohazard demo?
I always thought the WP rep the band got was bullshit" I never saw them that way..Two of the members are Jewish so I think that whole thing was overhyped..drew wrote:clash77 wrote:version sound wrote:Victim in Pain has pretty much always been the pinnacle of NYHC for me. The closest I got to the REV generation was the Crippled Youth EP.
I like that record as well VS( Crippled youth..later Bold)..also agree with the AF reference but so many other records/demos that I like also...Remember the Biohazard demo?
I remember the Biohazard demo.....they were still a little bit in their White Power phase at that point. The band that officially ruined everything about NYHC....and don't get me started on their poser DMS fans.....
clash77 wrote:I always thought the WP rep the band got was bullshit" I never saw them that way..Two of the members are Jewish so I think that whole thing was overhyped..drew wrote:clash77 wrote:version sound wrote:Victim in Pain has pretty much always been the pinnacle of NYHC for me. The closest I got to the REV generation was the Crippled Youth EP.
I like that record as well VS( Crippled youth..later Bold)..also agree with the AF reference but so many other records/demos that I like also...Remember the Biohazard demo?
I remember the Biohazard demo.....they were still a little bit in their White Power phase at that point. The band that officially ruined everything about NYHC....and don't get me started on their poser DMS fans.....
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
JGJR wrote:See, I think what makes AOQ great is that they COMBINED elements of both the ROIR tape and Motorhead. After that, they went into generic thrash metal.
gregpolard wrote:clash77 wrote:I always thought the WP rep the band got was bullshit" I never saw them that way..Two of the members are Jewish so I think that whole thing was overhyped..drew wrote:clash77 wrote:version sound wrote:Victim in Pain has pretty much always been the pinnacle of NYHC for me. The closest I got to the REV generation was the Crippled Youth EP.
I like that record as well VS( Crippled youth..later Bold)..also agree with the AF reference but so many other records/demos that I like also...Remember the Biohazard demo?
I remember the Biohazard demo.....they were still a little bit in their White Power phase at that point. The band that officially ruined everything about NYHC....and don't get me started on their poser DMS fans.....
I've never actually heard the supposed "racist" demo, I kinda always assumed it was blown out of proportion too.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:See, I think what makes AOQ great is that they COMBINED elements of both the ROIR tape and Motorhead. After that, they went into generic thrash metal.
Go back and listen the the ROIR tape, it's pretty heavy on it's own, especially for early HC. I don't hear much Motorhead in AOQ, just some standard moshcore. Motorhead were never mosh-y.
drew wrote:clash77 wrote:version sound wrote:Victim in Pain has pretty much always been the pinnacle of NYHC for me. The closest I got to the REV generation was the Crippled Youth EP.
I like that record as well VS( Crippled youth..later Bold)..also agree with the AF reference but so many other records/demos that I like also...Remember the Biohazard demo?
I remember the Biohazard demo.....they were still a little bit in their White Power phase at that point. The band that officially ruined everything about NYHC....and don't get me started on their poser DMS fans.....
drew wrote:clash77 wrote:version sound wrote:Victim in Pain has pretty much always been the pinnacle of NYHC for me. The closest I got to the REV generation was the Crippled Youth EP.
I like that record as well VS( Crippled youth..later Bold)..also agree with the AF reference but so many other records/demos that I like also...Remember the Biohazard demo?
I remember the Biohazard demo.....they were still a little bit in their White Power phase at that point. The band that officially ruined everything about NYHC....and don't get me started on their poser DMS fans.....
xxxHunterxxx wrote:I'll go with Agnostic Front. I like their first two records a lot.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:I'll go with Agnostic Front. I like their first two records a lot.
SamDBL wrote:For AF, I actually like the second album, best.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:SamDBL wrote:For AF, I actually like the second album, best.
Except for that 1 litttle song.........LMAO
SamDBL wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:SamDBL wrote:For AF, I actually like the second album, best.
Except for that 1 litttle song.........LMAO
Were all the lyrics written by the dude from Carnivore? Or just some of them?
lewdd wrote:I didn't know until last night that Freddy Madball was Roger's brother. Read it in one of the early chapters of NYHC book.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:SamDBL wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:SamDBL wrote:For AF, I actually like the second album, best.
Except for that 1 litttle song.........LMAO
Were all the lyrics written by the dude from Carnivore? Or just some of them?
Just that one song 'Public Assistance' was written by Pete Steel. It didn't say anything about color, though the PC people would try to spin it that way.
It did however take aim at anyone on welfare. Calling them lazy. They all knew it would stir up shit.
But I was shocked that Roger put his voice to it. I knew him from shows and interviews and I remember this giving AF a lot of controversy.
Whatevs. It was over 30 years and AF haven't played it to my knowledge especially since they're in very good favor with a TON of bands we know where their heads are at.
Remember when Descendents did 'Suburban Home'? They've edited the lyric on their own accord and I think AF did too.
Nuff said. It's been covered on this board at least 4 or 5 times already. Roger is a very decent human being.
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