What if someone - like Rogan - was prescribed Ivermectin by a real doctor? And took prescribed human-use dosages and human-consumption capsules?
What if media and internet groupthink ignored the facts and proceeded to slander/libel/shout down/ridicule someone for their personal medical choices that made with advice of their personal (and real, not internet) doctors?
That's, to me, the real danger in the case of how Rogan's public case has been treated. That people that have zero medical background are parroting and pretending to know the final word, and shouting down people that want to question authority and groupthink before making informed healthcare decisions. Force and shame are not good motivators or peacemakers.
Rogan did a video talking about how he was nonplussed with all the people and media saying he was parroting misinformation about his eating horse meds from farm stores instead of actually taking human prescriptions from a medical professional.
“Do I have to sue CNN? They’re making sh*t up,” Rogan said on his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience. “They keep saying I’m taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor. It’s an American company. They won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for use in human beings, and CNN is saying I’m taking horse dewormer. They must know that’s a lie.”
Disclaimer: I'm not a proponent or detractor of any medical advice/treatment/medicine. I recognize each person reacts differently from meds - over my personal adult life, I've been prescribed "normal" meds that wound up having dangerous outcomes (so I stopped taking them, and eventually over years got dialed in with help of a health care professional that was familiar over time with my individual needs and allergies, etc.)
I think it's fruitful in hot-button cases like this to limit one's Google searches to a time
prior to the politicization of the issue, and see what real, legitimate research physicians - not internet insta-experts - have historically said about some of this stuff.
The US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health website hosts that Japan study about human-use Ivermectin. Anyone can see this isn't some soccermom, televangelist, or interweb-copy-paste loudmouths writing this in a heated political time... obviously this was pre-political, unpaniced research physicians that said, pre-COVID:
"Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training...
Today, ivermectin is being increasingly used worldwide to combat other diseases in humans, such as Strongyloidiasis (which infects some 35 million each year), scabies (which causes 300 million cases annually), Pediculosis, Gnathostomiasis and Myiasis— and new and promising properties and uses for ivermectin and other avermectin derivatives are continuing to be found.
Since the inception of the Mectizan (Ivermectin) Donation Programme, Merck has donated well over 2.5 billion Mectizan® tablets for Onchocerciasis treatment, with in excess of 700 million treatments authorized. Currently, some 80–90 million people are taking the drug annually through MDA in Africa, Latin America and Yemen. A further 300 million total treatments have been approved for lymphatic filariasis, with around 90 million treatments being administered annually (Fig. (Fig.8 ).8 ). At present 33 countries are receiving ivermectin for Onchocerciasis and 15 for Lymphatic filariasis."
And yet all I see if I google TODAY is how
DANGEROUS! it is, and it's only for pony parasites. Why? Maybe it's 100% useless for COVID. But as one of my doctors said "it could be helpful, but - at worst - it's a sugar pill placebo... But it's not dangerous at all".
Certain groupthink is banging the drum awful hard that vax-ish drugs rushed through FDA approval are super duper safe - don't even question it if you don't want to get shouted down.
But go google search back to 2017, where CNN, certainly onboard with the "don't question the current groupthink about Ivermectin and vaccines" put out an article - pre political panic - that warns
"Nearly a third of FDA-approved drugs had problems, study finds:
"CNN — Patients might think the US Food and Drug Administration’s stamp of approval means that a product is the last word on safety, but about a third of the drugs the FDA approved between 2001 and 2010 were involved in some kind of safety event after reaching the market, according to a study published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association."I'm no fan of Rogan's - but I hate to see anyone tarred and feathered by ganged-up media and incorrect groupthink unfairly. Every "idiot!" headline and "horse dewormer!" decry begs suspicion on
why a placebo/sugarpill at worst, and helpful at best is shouted down and purposely mischaracterized. I mean, it's pretty thick. Punk used to be about question authority, and I'm okay with that.
Anyway, I've got no dog in any fights: my family and I have already had COVID. Some of us had little sniffles for a day or two, some of us wound up in the E.R. multiple times and it was pretty touch and go. Multiple licensed doctors have advised us that the known risks they're seeing results of that come with these current vaccines (particularly in some of our personal medical conditions) outweighs potential benefits. But since my family still has strong and healthy organically-made antibodies, so it's nice to know the odds are pretty freakin' against getting sick again.
*I know pretty much no one on any side of an issue actually reads the pasted links in an age of argue-first- don't-bother-to-data-check something that goes against their party's approved conclusions, but here's the sources if you want it from the horse's mouth (
Ha! equestrian irony points!):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/...and the source for the CNN pre-COVID article:
https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/health/f ... index.html...and Rogan's Youtube interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O_7O9_nV10
