xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:Jul 10,1995 Roseland Ballroom, NYC. Motorhead opening for what was passing for Black Sabbath. And even Motorhead were unreasonably loud. Sabbath sucked it. No Geezer, only Tony Iommi. Snoozefest.
scannest wrote:The Doughboys every night they opened for ALL on that first ALL tour in '88.
I saw Smashing Pumpkins and Superchunk open for Urge Overkill at Maxwell's. Does that count?
jaybird wrote:I saw a couple of the shows on that tour... I wouldn't say the Doughboys blew ALL off the stage, but they were definitely every bit as good. Those were some amazing shows to see for sure.
scannest wrote:jaybird wrote:I saw a couple of the shows on that tour... I wouldn't say the Doughboys blew ALL off the stage, but they were definitely every bit as good. Those were some amazing shows to see for sure.
Listen, ALL never played a bad show - but all the songs were from the first record which I have never liked all that much. And there was a weird vibe where people were expecting to hear a smattering of Descendents songs and they were not having it. So, it was kind of a down time for them while the Doughboys were just supercharged and exciting.
captain2man wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Jul 10,1995 Roseland Ballroom, NYC. Motorhead opening for what was passing for Black Sabbath. And even Motorhead were unreasonably loud. Sabbath sucked it. No Geezer, only Tony Iommi. Snoozefest.
I was there. Morbid Angel opened. But I disagree about Sabbath. I believe that show was on their Cross Purposes tour - and Geezer WAS playing bass. It was Tony, Geezer, Tony Martin & Bobby Rondinelli (and Geoff Nicholls - who may have actually been on the stage rather than behind the curtain).
Not one of the better Tony Martin-era albums - but they were great that night.....Tony Martin able to sing both Ozzy & Dio songs rather well. I remember them sounding huge that night and on point....and the novelty of seeing them in a smaller, club-ish setting (relatively speaking for them anyway) was also pretty neat.
I also had many vodkas from across the street at the Russian Samovar....always my regular pre-Roseland stop (try the horseradish vodka for a true drinking experience).
xxxMidgexxx wrote:Morbid Angel didn't play that show. I think it was Tiamat (but I missed the opener). It was Sabbath's Forbidden tour. Their worst album. No hooks, nothing memorable. Awful album
I found the listing:
Jul 10 1995
New York City, NY
Roseland Ballroom
Support: Motorhead, Tiamat
https://www.black-sabbath.com/tourdates/for_tour/
But I LOVE 'Cross Purposes' LP. VERY good.
captain2man wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Morbid Angel didn't play that show. I think it was Tiamat (but I missed the opener). It was Sabbath's Forbidden tour. Their worst album. No hooks, nothing memorable. Awful album
I found the listing:
Jul 10 1995
New York City, NY
Roseland Ballroom
Support: Motorhead, Tiamat
https://www.black-sabbath.com/tourdates/for_tour/
But I LOVE 'Cross Purposes' LP. VERY good.
I stand corrected! I had no idea that Sabbath played Roseland twice. I'm not sure I was even aware they played there on the Forbidden tour. Forbidden is the one Sabbath album I've never heard. Everyone says it sucks....I'm sure it does.
So - yeah - I found the listing for the show I was thinking of - 2/15/94 @ Roseland - and Motorhead/Morbid Angel definitely opened.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/black-sa ... 23983.html
scannest wrote:Drew's note reminded me that I saw that infamous tour where Faith No More and Soundgarden opened for Voivod. Now, I'm not gonna say that Voivod were no good. Let's call them 'not my cuppa tea' and leave it at that. But the openers were both pretty amazing.
I also got to see Jawbox open for Helmet at Maxwell's on that tour they did together (I wanna say it was '91?). Jawbox were amazing and Helmet was pretty boring despite a handful of great songs.
drew wrote:Saw ALL twice with Scott at City Gardens and they did a 50/50 ‘Dents/ALL set both shows. They were awesome.
Only times I saw them.
A Tribe Called Quest- on what was their first “last show” at MSG in-the-round opening for Beastie Boys. ATVQ were on fire that night, just totally in sync and used that round stage to get the crowd moving.
BB- who I think were always hit-or-miss live got their asses handed to them
Soundgarden at the Beacon Theater ‘92 opening for DANZIG. Warrior Soul played first and were really good but only got 20 minutes. I saw Soundgarden a bunch of times but this was the first with Ben Shepard on Bass. From the opener of “Beyond The Wheel” they were amazing.
We split three songs into Danzig.......
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
creature wrote:Not that Come wasn't awesome on this particular night.... but opener Bettie Serveert was the star of the show on a fine evening in San Jose at Club Oasis in 1992. They simply rule.
JGJR wrote:drew wrote:Saw ALL twice with Scott at City Gardens and they did a 50/50 ‘Dents/ALL set both shows. They were awesome.
Only times I saw them.
A Tribe Called Quest- on what was their first “last show” at MSG in-the-round opening for Beastie Boys. ATVQ were on fire that night, just totally in sync and used that round stage to get the crowd moving.
BB- who I think were always hit-or-miss live got their asses handed to them
Soundgarden at the Beacon Theater ‘92 opening for DANZIG. Warrior Soul played first and were really good but only got 20 minutes. I saw Soundgarden a bunch of times but this was the first with Ben Shepard on Bass. From the opener of “Beyond The Wheel” they were amazing.
We split three songs into Danzig.......
ALL - I only saw them with Scott twice and that was in '92 opening for Bad Religion at City Gardens. I didn't see them again with Scott until the 2011 show at the TLA in Philly following Riot Fest East (it was the afterparty and Naked Raygun opened). The rest of the times (3 that I can count) were with Chad later in the '90s and I also saw the incredible '93 Descendents reunion show at City Gardenw with Milo filling in for Chad one night only.
I saw that Beasties/ACTQ bill as well, but in NJ. It was the EXACT opposite. I LOVE ACTQ, but they barely made any sort of impact and sounded awful in an admittedly awful sounding arena. I only saw them that one time and wish it was better. Beasties were incredible that night. I also agree that they were hit and miss, but fortunately 2 of the 3 times I saw them, they were en fuego. The last time was at MSG in 2004 (the show where I Fuckin' Shot That was filmed at iirc).
The time in the middle was in '99, also at Continental Airlines Arena, and they were really shaky that night. Great, great bill with Rage Against the Machine (who were kinda boring that night, too; only time I ever saw them), Black Star (who stole the entire show; they were great) and Bad Religion (always good but not their best set by a longshot). Beasties only got 45 minutes and never really got going IMO.
JGJR wrote:drew wrote:Saw ALL twice with Scott at City Gardens and they did a 50/50 ‘Dents/ALL set both shows. They were awesome.
Only times I saw them.
A Tribe Called Quest- on what was their first “last show” at MSG in-the-round opening for Beastie Boys. ATVQ were on fire that night, just totally in sync and used that round stage to get the crowd moving.
BB- who I think were always hit-or-miss live got their asses handed to them
Soundgarden at the Beacon Theater ‘92 opening for DANZIG. Warrior Soul played first and were really good but only got 20 minutes. I saw Soundgarden a bunch of times but this was the first with Ben Shepard on Bass. From the opener of “Beyond The Wheel” they were amazing.
We split three songs into Danzig.......
The time in the middle was in '99, also at Continental Airlines Arena, and they were really shaky that night. Great, great bill with Rage Against the Machine (who were kinda boring that night, too; only time I ever saw them), Black Star (who stole the entire show; they were great) and Bad Religion (always good but not their best set by a longshot). Beasties only got 45 minutes and never really got going IMO.
jaybird wrote:JGJR wrote:drew wrote:Saw ALL twice with Scott at City Gardens and they did a 50/50 ‘Dents/ALL set both shows. They were awesome.
Only times I saw them.
A Tribe Called Quest- on what was their first “last show” at MSG in-the-round opening for Beastie Boys. ATVQ were on fire that night, just totally in sync and used that round stage to get the crowd moving.
BB- who I think were always hit-or-miss live got their asses handed to them
Soundgarden at the Beacon Theater ‘92 opening for DANZIG. Warrior Soul played first and were really good but only got 20 minutes. I saw Soundgarden a bunch of times but this was the first with Ben Shepard on Bass. From the opener of “Beyond The Wheel” they were amazing.
We split three songs into Danzig.......
ALL - I only saw them with Scott twice and that was in '92 opening for Bad Religion at City Gardens. I didn't see them again with Scott until the 2011 show at the TLA in Philly following Riot Fest East (it was the afterparty and Naked Raygun opened). The rest of the times (3 that I can count) were with Chad later in the '90s and I also saw the incredible '93 Descendents reunion show at City Gardenw with Milo filling in for Chad one night only.
I saw that Beasties/ACTQ bill as well, but in NJ. It was the EXACT opposite. I LOVE ACTQ, but they barely made any sort of impact and sounded awful in an admittedly awful sounding arena. I only saw them that one time and wish it was better. Beasties were incredible that night. I also agree that they were hit and miss, but fortunately 2 of the 3 times I saw them, they were en fuego. The last time was at MSG in 2004 (the show where I Fuckin' Shot That was filmed at iirc).
The time in the middle was in '99, also at Continental Airlines Arena, and they were really shaky that night. Great, great bill with Rage Against the Machine (who were kinda boring that night, too; only time I ever saw them), Black Star (who stole the entire show; they were great) and Bad Religion (always good but not their best set by a longshot). Beasties only got 45 minutes and never really got going IMO.
We were at a show together. I almost got into a fight with some douche in a red Phillies hat during ALL's set.
I hope it wasn't you.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:jaybird wrote:JGJR wrote:drew wrote:Saw ALL twice with Scott at City Gardens and they did a 50/50 ‘Dents/ALL set both shows. They were awesome.
Only times I saw them.
A Tribe Called Quest- on what was their first “last show” at MSG in-the-round opening for Beastie Boys. ATVQ were on fire that night, just totally in sync and used that round stage to get the crowd moving.
BB- who I think were always hit-or-miss live got their asses handed to them
Soundgarden at the Beacon Theater ‘92 opening for DANZIG. Warrior Soul played first and were really good but only got 20 minutes. I saw Soundgarden a bunch of times but this was the first with Ben Shepard on Bass. From the opener of “Beyond The Wheel” they were amazing.
We split three songs into Danzig.......
ALL - I only saw them with Scott twice and that was in '92 opening for Bad Religion at City Gardens. I didn't see them again with Scott until the 2011 show at the TLA in Philly following Riot Fest East (it was the afterparty and Naked Raygun opened). The rest of the times (3 that I can count) were with Chad later in the '90s and I also saw the incredible '93 Descendents reunion show at City Gardenw with Milo filling in for Chad one night only.
I saw that Beasties/ACTQ bill as well, but in NJ. It was the EXACT opposite. I LOVE ACTQ, but they barely made any sort of impact and sounded awful in an admittedly awful sounding arena. I only saw them that one time and wish it was better. Beasties were incredible that night. I also agree that they were hit and miss, but fortunately 2 of the 3 times I saw them, they were en fuego. The last time was at MSG in 2004 (the show where I Fuckin' Shot That was filmed at iirc).
The time in the middle was in '99, also at Continental Airlines Arena, and they were really shaky that night. Great, great bill with Rage Against the Machine (who were kinda boring that night, too; only time I ever saw them), Black Star (who stole the entire show; they were great) and Bad Religion (always good but not their best set by a longshot). Beasties only got 45 minutes and never really got going IMO.
We were at a show together. I almost got into a fight with some douche in a red Phillies hat during ALL's set.
I hope it wasn't you.
Most definitely not; lifelong Mets fan here; were you also at the afternoon festival/main show? ALL were great that night, huh? It was just like watching them with Scott in '92.
Anyway, sorry to hear, but glad a fight was avoided.
jaybird wrote:JGJR wrote:jaybird wrote:JGJR wrote:drew wrote:Saw ALL twice with Scott at City Gardens and they did a 50/50 ‘Dents/ALL set both shows. They were awesome.
Only times I saw them.
A Tribe Called Quest- on what was their first “last show” at MSG in-the-round opening for Beastie Boys. ATVQ were on fire that night, just totally in sync and used that round stage to get the crowd moving.
BB- who I think were always hit-or-miss live got their asses handed to them
Soundgarden at the Beacon Theater ‘92 opening for DANZIG. Warrior Soul played first and were really good but only got 20 minutes. I saw Soundgarden a bunch of times but this was the first with Ben Shepard on Bass. From the opener of “Beyond The Wheel” they were amazing.
We split three songs into Danzig.......
ALL - I only saw them with Scott twice and that was in '92 opening for Bad Religion at City Gardens. I didn't see them again with Scott until the 2011 show at the TLA in Philly following Riot Fest East (it was the afterparty and Naked Raygun opened). The rest of the times (3 that I can count) were with Chad later in the '90s and I also saw the incredible '93 Descendents reunion show at City Gardenw with Milo filling in for Chad one night only.
I saw that Beasties/ACTQ bill as well, but in NJ. It was the EXACT opposite. I LOVE ACTQ, but they barely made any sort of impact and sounded awful in an admittedly awful sounding arena. I only saw them that one time and wish it was better. Beasties were incredible that night. I also agree that they were hit and miss, but fortunately 2 of the 3 times I saw them, they were en fuego. The last time was at MSG in 2004 (the show where I Fuckin' Shot That was filmed at iirc).
The time in the middle was in '99, also at Continental Airlines Arena, and they were really shaky that night. Great, great bill with Rage Against the Machine (who were kinda boring that night, too; only time I ever saw them), Black Star (who stole the entire show; they were great) and Bad Religion (always good but not their best set by a longshot). Beasties only got 45 minutes and never really got going IMO.
We were at a show together. I almost got into a fight with some douche in a red Phillies hat during ALL's set.
I hope it wasn't you.
Most definitely not; lifelong Mets fan here; were you also at the afternoon festival/main show? ALL were great that night, huh? It was just like watching them with Scott in '92.
Anyway, sorry to hear, but glad a fight was avoided.
Yeah, we got there at about 4;PM for the main show... I managed to catch parts of Hot Water Music, Samiam and X in the smaller tent toward the back of the complex, and then Dead Milkmen and Descendents
on the main stage.
It wasn't just me that almost got into the fight... it was a whole bunch of people who were ready to square off with a bunch of idiot Philly bros who were going out of their way to be stupid and pointlessly aggressive during ALL's set... the red-hat douche was the one I remember most clearly, but there were about 4 or 5 of them who were acting out their MMA/Backyard Wrestling fantasies.
Bill Burr was right.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
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