version sound wrote:Wasn’t the track playing on that from mbv? I hope I’m wrong, but I’m thinking that this might just be a repress of that record.
version sound wrote:Most of the internet thinks it’s their catalog being (re)released to streaming services. That would be pretty underwhelming, though it would be nice to have mbv and (all) the Creation singles streaming.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:What a weird rollout
The deluxe and standard are the same price.
The deluxe is just a nicer sleeve it looks like. I ended up being able to snag the deluxe of the 2013 album and standard for the other two. For some reason the deluxe Isn’t Anything didn’t ship from the US so I’m not paying an extra $20 for it.
pedro wrote:It seems to me the mbv does anything they possibly can to make it difficult to purchase their music. I was thinking about buying Isn't Anything on vinyl, but apparently they won't ship it to the US.
Feck 'em.
version sound wrote:pedro wrote:It seems to me the mbv does anything they possibly can to make it difficult to purchase their music. I was thinking about buying Isn't Anything on vinyl, but apparently they won't ship it to the US.
Feck 'em.
They will.
https://store.mybloodyvalentine.org/release/223060-my-bloody-valentine-isnt-anything
version sound wrote:It’s nice to have the Creation EPs streaming. It would be even nicer if they were being reissued on vinyl. This is good news for anyone who missed out on the last couple of rounds of reissues, since prices on those have gotten pretty crazy.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
gregpolard wrote:What a weird rollout
The deluxe and standard are the same price.
The deluxe is just a nicer sleeve it looks like. I ended up being able to snag the deluxe of the 2013 album and standard for the other two. For some reason the deluxe Isn’t Anything didn’t ship from the US so I’m not paying an extra $20 for it.
version sound wrote:Apparently, he owns the catalog in the UK and possibly the rest of the world other than the US. Sony owns it in the US, which is why Domino won’t ship to the US.
Hi-rez digital can be good on vinyl. If done correctly, it should be better than a CD. People are still claiming that the OG vinyl mastered from a DAT is better than the all analog 2018 pressing. Different I can believe, but better? IDK, I think some people are just trying to keep the prices on OGs high.
When the 2 disc Loveless reissue came out in 2012, a lot of people raved about the disc that was mastered from a new analog master. Then it came out that the discs were mislabeled, and the one everyone was raving about being so analog and natural was actually the remaster from the DAT. People hear what they want to hear a lot of the time.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/VinylReleases/comments/mi14ze/juno_my_bloody_valentine_loveless_deluxe_vinyl/
Not sure if this is an April Fools joke or what, but FYI.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:Oh damn. No cancellation for me (yet)
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:At this point, I'm probably gonna forego the pre-orders and just hope that stores get these in when they come out.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:At this point, I'm probably gonna forego the pre-orders and just hope that stores get these in when they come out.
Very unlikely, in the US, at least. Due to the rights issues, Domino will only be distributing mbv in the US.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:Good question. I don’t think that Domino will supply stores in the US, period. My understanding is that Kevin hates Sony for licensing IA and Loveless to Plain without his involvement, and he won’t deal with them at all at this point. Your best bet might end up being Amazon UK or Germany. Juno is usually very reliable and shipping is reasonable. Hopefully, it will be possible to buy from them without the order being cancelled when there is more stock available.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
version sound wrote:People on other boards have been complaining about the same stuff and that there is artificial/intentional scarcity for the deluxe versions, but I’m not buying it. I’ll bet dollars to donuts that the deluxe version is being made up of leftover stock/parts from the 2018 pressing, and that’s what’s dictating the numbers. When the band rolled out their reissues, they took a few months to sell out, so I very much doubt they expected this run to sell out so quickly. Also, COVID is still having a big effect on pressing plants, so their hands might be tied as far as how many they can get pressed of either version.
Oh, and as far as shipping goes, the fact that the stock for the deluxe versions is in the UK just supports my belief that it’s old stock/parts from the 2018 versions. They don’t have the rights for the first two albums in the US and those are not being distributed here, so it’s actually surprising that anything other than mbv is being shipped from the US.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
version sound wrote:There’s a lot of nerd rage on the Steve Hoffman board about how limited the all analog pressing is, and theoretically, if you have a fancy big money system, there should be a difference in the sound between the analog and digital cuts, but if you are working with much more humble gear, the differences are going to be less obvious. Also, consider that nearly everyone who owns the original Creation vinyl (mastered from a DAT) claims to prefer it to the AAA version. Part of that could be wanting to like it better because they have a lot of money invested in that copy, or if they’ve owned it since it was new, that’s just how they’re used to hearing it. If done well, high rez digital can be as good as analogue or (heaven forbid) better - lots of hi-fi nerds preferred the digitally sourced 50th anniversary pressing of Forever Changes to the previous highly lauded analog cut. The nerds on the SH forum seem to have forgotten that the reviews of the all analog 2018 MBV reissues were mixed. They were generally liked, but certainly did not get anything like universal acclaim.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
version sound wrote:There’s a lot of nerd rage on the Steve Hoffman board about how limited the all analog pressing is, and theoretically, if you have a fancy big money system, there should be a difference in the sound between the analog and digital cuts, but if you are working with much more humble gear, the differences are going to be less obvious. Also, consider that nearly everyone who owns the original Creation vinyl (mastered from a DAT) claims to prefer it to the AAA version. Part of that could be wanting to like it better because they have a lot of money invested in that copy, or if they’ve owned it since it was new, that’s just how they’re used to hearing it. If done well, high rez digital can be as good as analogue or (heaven forbid) better - lots of hi-fi nerds preferred the digitally sourced 50th anniversary pressing of Forever Changes to the previous highly lauded analog cut. The nerds on the SH forum seem to have forgotten that the reviews of the all analog 2018 MBV reissues were mixed. They were generally liked, but certainly did not get anything like universal acclaim.
version sound wrote:People on other boards have been complaining about the same stuff and that there is artificial/intentional scarcity for the deluxe versions, but I’m not buying it. I’ll bet dollars to donuts that the deluxe version is being made up of leftover stock/parts from the 2018 pressing, and that’s what’s dictating the numbers.
version sound wrote:I guess my question now is, if they can/will just re-press the AAA version, why did they ever bother making anything other than the AAA version? It’s just weird, especially coming from a guy obsessed with sound, and the sound of his own recordings in particular.
I understand that a record can’t sound better than its source, but hi-rez should have a much higher sample rate than a standard CD, so it’s not just like pressing a CD on vinyl. Right? (That’s an honest question)
version sound wrote:I’m not going to pretend that I fully understand that, but if the problem is with the limitations inherent in vinyl production and sound reproduction, why is it any better when it’s an analog source?
From a true audiophile perspective, my stereo is probably garbage. For me, it’s definitely a step up from what I grew up with, which was a decent consumer grade component system. It’s very possible that the fact that I started listening to punk/hardcore at such a young age permanently warped my perception of what sounds “good.” I can hear very obvious differences in pressings/recordings, but at a certain point, good enough is good enough, whether that be on LP, CD, or SACD (but never pre-recorded cassettes. Always hated those). My preference for vinyl is 99% based on the fact that I grew up with it. I have experienced an expensive AF audio system in a specially designed listening room, and honestly, it didn’t do that much for me.
version sound wrote:I didn’t take any of it personally. I agree with most of what your saying. I fully admit that my love of vinyl is mainly based in nostalgia. There are things that definitely “sound better on vinyl,” but I think that is almost entirely due to mastering, not the format itself. I still have tons of CDs.
pedro wrote:I have spent the last 20 minutes trying to embed a tweet from mbv. No luck.
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialMBV/stat ... 2993619968
Apparently there is a new record in two days. I'm sure it will be $35-$40 and I am sure I will buy it. I'm a sucker.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
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