version sound wrote: go through the entire Fugazi catalog, song by song, album by album.
.xxxMidgexxx wrote:This thread is not mandatory, is it?
lewdd wrote:You can end the thread after that song because I don't think they made another song that comes close to being as good as that one.
jaybird wrote:version sound wrote: go through the entire Fugazi catalog, song by song, album by album.
jaybird wrote:version sound wrote: go through the entire Fugazi catalog, song by song, album by album.
version sound wrote:lewdd wrote:You can end the thread after that song because I don't think they made another song that comes close to being as good as that one.
Duuuude, it’s not even the best song on the demo.
pedro wrote:I think the music on this song is great. I have always found the lyrics to be kind of dumb and condescending. I have never thought a rock band owes me anything or that I have any control of that rock band. I certainly don’t think I am what I own.
And for the record, I kind of like(d) t-shirts from obscure rock bands. I also didn’t mind spending $8-$10 on a t-shirt that helped the band get to the next gig or put out the next record.
pedro wrote:I have heard that take on the song, but it goes against what was said from the stage. In the early days, this song was almost always preceded by a speech about the evils of t-shirts.
pedro wrote:...as the intro to this song, Ian would always point out that they did not have t-shirts or any other kind of merchandise (other than records) for sale at their shows. He would talk about how it was supposed to be about the music instead of who has what t-shirt or trinket or whatever. They weren't interested in making t-shirts and they weren't going to make t-shirts. Which is all fine, but it got a bit redundant and over the top.
version sound wrote:pedro wrote:...as the intro to this song, Ian would always point out that they did not have t-shirts or any other kind of merchandise (other than records) for sale at their shows. He would talk about how it was supposed to be about the music instead of who has what t-shirt or trinket or whatever. They weren't interested in making t-shirts and they weren't going to make t-shirts. Which is all fine, but it got a bit redundant and over the top.
Must’ve been a DC thing? I only saw them once around this time, but there was definitely no anti-Tee rant when I saw them in Virginia Beach. I love and respect Ian, but he definitely goes overboard. It’s great that Fugazi were so anti-corporate, but wasn’t Ian making plenty of money from licensed Minor Threat t-shirts? Minor Threat definitely sold and licensed (I believe) shirts going back to the early 80s. Makes me want to print some Fugazi tees...
SamDBL wrote:Yeah, it's always super easy to be anti-capitalism when you've already secured yourself financially through capitalist means. Look at Bernie Sanders. But I never took Ian's lyrics to be quite that shallow. More like maybe pointing out the faults of capitalism rather than condemning it outright in favor of socialism. I appreciate that Fugazi, which I'd guess were generally extremely left, had more nuanced messages on issues like that.
version sound wrote:This is pretty much the closest they ever came to straight dub/reggae.
scannest wrote:version sound wrote:This is pretty much the closest they ever came to straight dub/reggae.
Nah, "Version" is their skankiest dub. This is way is pretty straight rock with a reggae bassline. You know, Fugazi-esque.
pedro wrote:Repeater will be more like “I don’t remember it.”
version sound wrote:Revisit the demo version, which is much dubbier than the single version, then maybe just agree to disagree. “Version” sounds more like a This Heat homage to me.
scannest wrote:version sound wrote:Revisit the demo version, which is much dubbier than the single version, then maybe just agree to disagree. “Version” sounds more like a This Heat homage to me.
Yes, the demo is definitely dubbier, but that instrumental chorus still hits pretty hard, and then when it picks up speed for a little while there.
I am not familiar with This Heat.
scannest wrote:I'm pretty certain that the no t-shirt thing had at least as much to do with making their life easier on the road as anything else. They didn't have to lug shirts around and deal with clubs taking a percentage of their merch sales (which also meant counting in with the club at the beginning of the night, counting out at closing, etc. What a pain in the ass that must be). And I don't think their decision was ever intended as a slag against bands who sold merch, but people always take these things personally.
version sound wrote:Song #1
Another early classic. Musically, it features the classic Fugazi formula. The lyrics sound like they could be a comment on the Emo phenomenon and/or your basic scene politics. It’s really hard to believe Greg isn’t repping this demo harder. Great rocking rhythmic punk with sing along choruses - isn’t that your jam? I bet if you had heard it first instead of last you would be all over it.
version sound wrote:Song #1
scannest wrote:version sound wrote:Song #1
Starter Fugazi. Fugazi with training wheels. Great tune, but "Everybody's talking 'bout their hometown scenes and hurting people's feelings in their magazines" made me cringe then and still does.
lewdd wrote:scannest wrote:version sound wrote:Song #1
Starter Fugazi. Fugazi with training wheels. Great tune, but "Everybody's talking 'bout their hometown scenes and hurting people's feelings in their magazines" made me cringe then and still does.
Were those lyrics a knock on MRR
jaybird wrote:As long as we're doing this, I would like to see some discussion of Ian's unbearable privilege in thinking he could possibly have any idea of what it's like for a woman to be a target of catcalling and street harassment, as he blithely and ignorantly assumes to speak for women in the lyrics of "Suggestion". That sort of clueless appropriation of feminist narratives and lived experiences is just another hot garbage take from a white male who doesn't know how to sit down, shut up, and pass the mic to historically otherized and marginalized perspectives.
jaybird wrote:Just so long as it's on the docket...
SamDBL wrote:jaybird wrote:Just so long as it's on the docket...
Lol. Right next to the ‘guilty of white’ cold case file.
I’d like to also submit a claim against any asshole that criticized the calls for the Super Bowl, considering it was the first female Ref for an SB. Misogyny
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
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