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by **lewdd** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:35 pm

Yeah, the postal system is a complete clusterfuck right now thru no fault of those actually doing the work. I blame the assholes that have never worked in a factory or distribution environment who are calling the shots and have no clue what their decisions have created. I would rather have paid more to keep the same level of service than to pay the same and get tenfold worse service levels. Fucking idiots!

by **lewdd** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:18 pm

i'm hearing rumours that sid vicious is going to pardoned by trump in a later batch before end of the year

by **scannest** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:00 am

Sid was never convicted of Nancy's murder before he died. Gotta be a convicted criminal to get that sweet, sweet pardon.

by **pedro** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:48 am

scannest wrote:Sid was never convicted of Nancy's murder before he died. Gotta be a convicted criminal to get that sweet, sweet pardon.

Gerald Ford wrote:Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.

Although that has never been challenged in court. Maybe when Trump issues similar pardons to his kids it will be?

But you're right, Trump can't pardon Sid, it would be Gov. Cuomo. State charges v. federal charges.

by **lewdd** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:50 am

Must be fake news then...carry on.

by **scannest** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:13 am

Learn something new every day on the Dagboard. That's why I keep coming here.

by **version sound** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:02 am

Wikipedia says:

Pardons have been used for presumptive cases, such as when President Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, who had not been charged with anything, over any possible crimes connected with the Watergate scandal, but the Supreme Court has never considered the legal effectiveness of such pardons.

Basically, the same thing pedro said. Trust Dagboarders.

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 am

How about that election then huh?

by **scannest** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:13 am

I wish the press would stop publishing those maps that show election results by county without acknowledging how many people actually live and vote in those counties. You look at the Georgia maps this morning and it looks like 80% of the state is "red", but somehow both Democratic candidates are assumptive winners. It's very misleading. Hell, you could look at one of these election maps of NY state and think it was somehow more Red than Blue. Cows don't vote, as they say.

by **lewdd** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:30 am

scannest wrote:Cows don't vote, as they say.

Some people would lead you to believe they illegally did or that they could.

by **the mean** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:50 am

Today's Trump speech is exactly what we deserve as a country.

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:26 pm

the mean wrote:Today's Trump speech is exactly what we deserve as a country.

True dat.

by **captain2man** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:02 pm

Good to see fine, patriotic Trump supporters endorsing the peaceful transition of power.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/stat ... 8819105792

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:23 pm

captain2man wrote:Good to see fine, patriotic Trump supporters endorsing the peaceful transition of power.

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/stat ... 8819105792

I have no problem with Cops vs. Trump supporters in a battle to the ............... :twisted:

by **the mean** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:32 pm

Well, cops just backed off and let them storm the Capitol building.

by **lewdd** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:37 pm

Lock him up for inciting a riot at a minimum. There seems to be many other crimes he has committed and got away with.

by **scannest** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:40 pm

It's awful. I can't tell you how many times this scene has crossed my mind recently. If only...

by **the mean** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm

Imagine the bloodbath if BLM protestors tried to storm the Capitol during a session.

by **lewdd** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

What a fucking disgrace! Escort that asshole right to Guantanamo and don't wait until the actual inauguration day. The rest of the world leaders are kicked back with champagne and caviar watching this new Comedy Central show unfold live.

by **gregpolard** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:05 pm

scannest wrote:It's awful. I can't tell you how many times this scene has crossed my mind recently. If only...

I want to laugh (because I agree with you) but, man....I can't even laugh at this anymore. This is what all of us saw coming in some way, shape or form in 2016. I saw a Tweet from Norman Brannon of Texas Is The Reason / Anti Matter zine that said "This is like watching someone slowly leaking the gas line into your home, waiting 4 years, lighting a match and then blowing up your house while people gather around saying "But how did this happen?""

by **SamDBL** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:37 am

the mean wrote:Imagine the bloodbath if BLM protestors tried to storm the Capitol during a session.

I’m sure it would’ve been ramped down harder. But I think that has less to do with what people are insinuating and more to do with who is giving the orders than anything else. In Seattle, Portland, NYC, etc, BLM/antifa have been given a very wide birth with violent and destructive ‘protesting’ because the politicians running those cities are very sympathetic to their perceived grievances. Well, these nuts are appealing to Trump’s ego and the capital is ‘his’ for a couple more days, so it makes perfect sense that they get treated with the BLM/Seattle kid gloves, here. Imo, it should all be shut down, equally. But the precedent for politicians tolerating chaos if they are down with the cause has been being set all fucking year.

by **scannest** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:22 am

Some silly, inside-baseball type stuff I know - but what do you guys think of this possibility? Trump can't pardon himself, but if he is removed from office via the 25th Amendment Pence could then conceivably pardon Trump during his less than 2 weeks in office.
Is that likely, plausible or ridiculous?

by **pedro** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:11 am

Because no president has ever attempted it, the legality of Tiny pardoning himself is not settled law. I think he will try it and it will get all the way to the SCOTUS. We'll see what happens.

The scenario you lay out is not implausible, it's kind of the Nixon/Ford deal, but I have to wonder if the game has changed since yesterday when Pence told Tiny he wouldn't try to overthrow the election and then Tiny basically told his MAGAidiots to go get him (Pence) and then tweeted his love an admiration of these MAGAidiots while the Capitol was under siege. I have read that Pence is pissed as hell (or in Pence's case,"heck") at Tiny and two aren't speaking. Reporting is that Pence's Chief of Staff has been banned from the West Wing of the White House.

Pence and at least half the Cabinet need to agree on invoking the 25th. I can see some members of the Cabinet insisting that if the 25th is invoked, Pence has to pardon Tiny. After all, the reason to invoke would probably be Tiny is mentally incapacitated, which may provide some cover for a pardon. In their minds anyway.

I also think Tiny won't resign because his ego wont allow it. He is not a quitter or a loser.

Weird shit indeed.

EDIT: Of course I say all of this without checking the current status of events for about 2 hours. Who knows what has happened since 10:00AM!

by **gregpolard** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:03 pm

pedro wrote:Because no president has ever attempted it, the legality of Tiny pardoning himself is not settled law. I think he will try it and it will get all the way to the SCOTUS. We'll see what happens.

The scenario you lay out is not implausible, it's kind of the Nixon/Ford deal, but I have to wonder if the game has changed since yesterday when Pence told Tiny he wouldn't try to overthrow the election and then Tiny basically told his MAGAidiots to go get him (Pence) and then tweeted his love an admiration of these MAGAidiots while the Capitol was under siege. I have read that Pence is pissed as hell (or in Pence's case,"heck") at Tiny and two aren't speaking. Reporting is that Pence's Chief of Staff has been banned from the West Wing of the White House.

Pence and at least half the Cabinet need to agree on invoking the 25th. I can see some members of the Cabinet insisting that if the 25th is invoked, Pence has to pardon Tiny. After all, the reason to invoke would probably be Tiny is mentally incapacitated, which may provide some cover for a pardon. In their minds anyway.

I also think Tiny won't resign because his ego wont allow it. He is not a quitter or a loser.

Weird shit indeed.

EDIT: Of course I say all of this without checking the current status of events for about 2 hours. Who knows what has happened since 10:00AM!

Excellent points. And man did I chortle at "heck" for Pence :lol:

by **pedro** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:47 pm

Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao just resigned. I''m guessing here, but to me that means there probably will not be an invoking of the 25th. I would think that Chao wouldn't be really happy about Tiny sending the MAGAidiots to the Capitol yesterday as she is married to incoming Senate Minority Leader McConnell. I am guessing she would have been a yes. But she also chose to marry incoming Senate Minority Leader McConnell in the first place, so her intellect is questionable, at best.

But in other news, incoming Senate Majority Leader Schumer seems to be getting ready for Tiny's Impeachment, The Sequel.

Weird shit indeed.

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:47 pm

pedro wrote:I also think Tiny won't resign because his ego wont allow it. He is not a quitter or a loser.

This is the crux of the matter.

by **captain2man** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:26 pm

There was a rumor circulating that Pence would resign as VP so he wouldn't have to be put in a position to pardon Trump, should Trump himself resign on his last day so that there would be no question about Pence's pardon power. You couldn't write drama better than that.

I'm also seeing comparisons to what happened yesterday with BLM/Antifa. That is just as bad a comparison as those who equated Trump and his supporters calling this election a fraud and Democrats who were talking about interference in 2016. Apples & oranges.

Whether you agree with BLM and Antifa or not - the ideals of those organizations, and those protests were about revolt and changing the political/economic/justice status quo. They are protesting/fighting for a different world - a new order as it were. I'm not talking about people who latch onto those protests and organizations for the exclusive purpose of wanting to burn shit down. I'm talking about the people who march with those organizations in good faith about what their purpose is.

The people who stormed the Capital yesterday deserve no such label. They are not taking part in a revolt. They are not taking part in a revolution. They don't want a new and different world, quite the contrary - they are fighting to reclaim an old order - a regressive past - a past they have romanticized that likely never actually existed.

The people who were there yesterday are bootlickers. They don't rise up for a cause that anyone can rightly deem to be noble or righteous - they only rise up and take arms at the behest of a wealthy, white supremacist president who essentially gave them orders to do exactly what they did, and justified their actions through the completely false premise that the election was "stolen" from their Dear Leader. It was a temper tantrum.

Had these people been affiliated with BLM or Antifa....had they been black people with guns....had they been actual revolutionaries, rather than a bunch of MAGA nationalists - they would have been massacred on the steps of the Capital building.

This, by the way, is not directed at all Trump supporters....because, for once, it was actually refreshing to see some Trump supporters strongly condemn these actions, and acknowledge that had it not been for Trump's own rhetoric and failure to concede an election he clearly lost, that this would most likely not have happened. This is specifically directed at the people who took the time to go there and do what they did. They would rather live in Trump Kingdom than the United States of America.

by **SamDBL** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:24 pm

I still think fair comparisons can be made between the BLM riots of the past year and this, as well. In that I think they were both based on bullshit. If you feel one side is more justified in its violent behavior than the other, I’m convinced it’s because you sympathize with their cause more. I do not, I don’t think the election was stolen, so I don’t sympathize with the barbarian cosplayers rioting last night, I also don’t agree with the supposed premise of BLM that white supremacy is embedded in America, systemically, and that black people are being hunted by skinhead police officers, etc. Not even a little bit. Let’s not even get into all the insane shit they used to have up their website that had nothing to do with black lives mattering, such as an intent to ‘dismantle the western prescribed nuclear family’. And so when I see blm and antifa burning cities and businesses to the ground, public statues being reduced to rubble, people being beaten and harassed and major metropolis areas put on curfew while police do nothing and politicians and pundits run cover for them, I feel the exact same way when I see nuts storming the streets and the capital building for their irrational and baseless world view. I also can’t get with the notion that, after spending months watching footage of places like Portland, Seattle and LA burn for months on end, or simply surrendered with police actively being told to do nothing to stop dangerous criminal activity in the name of racial justice that the sole reason the mob wasn’t nuked by police last night is because America is racist, or whatever.
I want to see everyone of these things shut down with police force. Believe me, it works. It FL, the blm shit show barely had three businesses set on fire before they started rounding them up and tossing them in jail. Like magic, the riots ramped down pretty quickly. I hope for the same whether violent activity is being caused by a skinhead rally, a blm ‘fiery but mostly peaceful’ protest, or a god damn lord of the rings convention. Criminal behavior is criminal behavior and should be shut down and we should all be behind that. Don’t let your political sympathies, one way or the other, cloud your mind against this very simple fact.

by **jaybird** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:48 pm

SamDBL wrote:I still think fair comparisons can be made between the BLM riots of the past year and this, as well. In that I think they were both based on bullshit. If you feel one side is more justified in its violent behavior than the other, I’m convinced it’s because you sympathize with their cause more. I do not, I don’t think the election was stolen, so I don’t sympathize with the barbarian cosplayers rioting last night, I also don’t agree with the supposed premise of BLM that white supremacy is embedded in America, systemically, and that black people are being hunted by skinhead police officers, etc. Not even a little bit. Let’s not even get into all the insane shit they used to have up their website that had nothing to do with black lives mattering, such as an intent to ‘dismantle the western prescribed nuclear family’. And so when I see blm and antifa burning cities and businesses to the ground, public statues being reduced to rubble, people being beaten and harassed and major metropolis areas put on curfew while police do nothing and politicians and pundits run cover for them, I feel the exact same way when I see nuts storming the streets and the capital building for their irrational and baseless world view. I also can’t get with the notion that, after spending months watching footage of places like Portland, Seattle and LA burn for months on end, or simply surrendered with police actively being told to do nothing to stop dangerous criminal activity in the name of racial justice that the sole reason the mob wasn’t nuked by police last night is because America is racist, or whatever.
I want to see everyone of these things shut down with police force. Believe me, it works. It FL, the blm shit show barely had three businesses set on fire before they started rounding them up and tossing them in jail. Like magic, the riots ramped down pretty quickly. I hope for the same whether violent activity is being caused by a skinhead rally, a blm ‘fiery but mostly peaceful’ protest, or a god damn lord of the rings convention. Criminal behavior is criminal behavior and should be shut down and we should all be behind that. Don’t let your political sympathies, one way or the other, cloud your mind against this very simple fact.

Bronzed 'n' Huged.

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:14 pm

SamDBL wrote: I also don’t agree with the supposed premise of BLM that white supremacy is embedded in America, systemically, and that black people are being hunted by skinhead police officers..

Maybe not "skinhead" cops per se, but white cops.

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by **SamDBL** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:29 pm

xxxMidgexxx wrote:
SamDBL wrote: I also don’t agree with the supposed premise of BLM that white supremacy is embedded in America, systemically, and that black people are being hunted by skinhead police officers..

Maybe not "skinhead" cops per se, but white cops.

Over and
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This is an entire debate unto itself. I have listened thoroughly to many, many arguments and explanations from both sides and I’m not convinced that the reason there have been black people killed at the hands of white officers is 100% and unequivocally because cops and white people are racist cogs is the racist system that is Amerikkka. At the very, very least, not to the extent of being an epidemic, or anything close to it.

by **scannest** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:03 am

Can we discuss how Trump has likely destroyed any future political ambitions due to his inability to reject the affections of even the most deplorable in a basket full of deplorables? In the end, the folks who showed up and stormed the Capitol are about as vile it gets - or more correctly they are folks who are comfortable with publicly displaying the most vile ideas - pure racist, fascist shitbags. And because he couldn't even say NO to them (people whom he wouldn't piss on if they were on fire a mere 5 years ago), his lofty future plans are done. Hell, I imagine his potential 'private sector' life is in the shitter too. Who will work with him? Publish his books? Put him on TV? That's over. All because he couldn't even draw the line at these assholes.

by **scannest** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:38 am

Seriously, these are the folks to whom he couldn't resist saying "We love you. You're very special."

by **version sound** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:41 am

xxxMidgexxx wrote:
SamDBL wrote: I also don’t agree with the supposed premise of BLM that white supremacy is embedded in America, systemically, and that black people are being hunted by skinhead police officers..

Maybe not "skinhead" cops per se, but white cops.

Over and
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Seriously, how many fucking times does it have to happen? Systemic racism in America is real as fuck. Being able to deny that it exists is the very definition of white privilege. If you don’t have to worry about your kid being fucking murdered by the police based on the color of their skin every goddamn time they leave the house, it’s pretty easy to pretend it’s not an issue. And, yes, white extremists are absolutely treated with kid gloves compared to anyone of color. Just look at several stand-offs with law enforcement over the years with ARMED white fuckfaces where the cops didn’t fire a shot and compare that with how unarmed black men (and women) are treated even at a fucking traffic stop or in their own damn houses.

by **version sound** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:43 am

scannest wrote:Can we discuss how Trump has likely destroyed any future political ambitions due to his inability to reject the affections of even the most deplorable in a basket full of deplorables? In the end, the folks who showed up and stormed the Capitol are about as vile it gets - or more correctly they are folks who are comfortable with publicly displaying the most vile ideas - pure racist, fascist shitbags. And because he couldn't even say NO to them (people whom he wouldn't piss on if they were on fire a mere 5 years ago), his lofty future plans are done. Hell, I imagine his potential 'private sector' life is in the shitter too. Who will work with him? Publish his books? Put him on TV? That's over. All because he couldn't even draw the line at these assholes.

Even the Russians might be done with him at this point.

Website · by **JGJR** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:50 am

the mean wrote:Imagine the bloodbath if BLM protestors tried to storm the Capitol during a session.

This. Plus if any of you follow Paul Bearer on Instagram (he's @djdontlikeu), look at his most recent post. Says it all (and it's HYSTERICAL).

by **SamDBL** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:06 pm

version sound wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:
SamDBL wrote: I also don’t agree with the supposed premise of BLM that white supremacy is embedded in America, systemically, and that black people are being hunted by skinhead police officers..

Maybe not "skinhead" cops per se, but white cops.

Over and
Over and
Over and
Over and
Over and
Over and
Over..............

Seriously, how many fucking times does it have to happen? Systemic racism in America is real as fuck. Being able to deny that it exists is the very definition of white privilege. If you don’t have to worry about your kid being fucking murdered by the police based on the color of their skin every goddamn time they leave the house, it’s pretty easy to pretend it’s not an issue. And, yes, white extremists are absolutely treated with kid gloves compared to anyone of color. Just look at several stand-offs with law enforcement over the years with ARMED white fuckfaces where the cops didn’t fire a shot and compare that with how unarmed black men (and women) are treated even at a fucking traffic stop or in their own damn houses.

This is overly emotional and baseless knee jerk reactionary bullshit is such a bigger problem for the country than white supremacy or systemic racism is.

by **Welly** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:20 pm

Now we’ll finally get to the bottom of things.

by **scannest** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:29 pm

One of the American Patriots who died apparently had a Taser tucked in his pants as he tried to remove a large oil painting of Tip O'Neill from a wall in the Capitol Building. He fell while trying to remove the painting and landed in such a way that the Taser was triggered and he was shocked in his testicles. Repeatedly. He died of a heart attack as a result of the repeated shocks to his testicles.

His name was Kevin Greeson. Say his name.

by **jaybird** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:35 pm

Welly wrote:You've gotta give it to humans. In under two decades social media has almost destroyed society.

by **Welly** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:37 pm

Now we’ll finally get to the bottom of things.

by **Welly** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:42 pm

Now we’ll finally get to the bottom of things.

by **Welly** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:46 pm

Now we’ll finally get to the bottom of things.

by **SamDBL** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:53 pm

scannest wrote:One of the American Patriots who died apparently had a Taser tucked in his pants as he tried to remove a large oil painting of Tip O'Neill from a wall in the Capitol Building. He fell while trying to remove the painting and landed in such a way that the Taser was triggered and he was shocked in his testicles. Repeatedly. He died of a heart attack as a result of the repeated shocks to his testicles.

His name was Kevin Greeson. Say his name.

You’re joking, but this is part of the issue. This guy had a taser, and the woman that was shot and killed was unarmed. She was committing a crime. But we are told again and again that that is no excuse for cops to use deadly force.
So I’m curious why this unarmed woman’s death at the hands of cops is being brushed off by the ‘say her name’ folks. Is it because she was a Trump supporter, or because she was committing a crime, and therefore got what was coming to her?
I ask because it’s this kind of double standard bullshit that makes me not take your other claims seriously. I’m supposed to be calibrating my worldview so that when a guy gets shot after sexually assaulting a woman, stealing her car, charging cops with a knife and endangering kids proves that America is a racist hellscape... while simultaneously laughing off the death of an unarmed woman also committing a crime because she was white and supported Trump? Fuck off.

by **Welly** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:20 pm

Now we’ll finally get to the bottom of things.

by **scannest** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:27 pm

The white nationalist who broke into Nancy Pelosi's office has been arrested. His name is Richard Barnett.

The "paper trail" left by these fucking jabronis on various social media platforms is insane. They (and their families) will claim they went to express their first amendment rights while their Parler accounts are full of "I've got my guns, let's go fucking do this!"

by **scannest** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:29 pm

Welly wrote:For this to be real social media, all we need now is for a right winger to chime in pretending to be a centrist, attempting to construct a false equivalence of two separate protests, by conflating real world grievance with one based on a lie.

by **Welly** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:32 pm

Now we’ll finally get to the bottom of things.

by **patient_ot** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:41 pm

by **patient_ot** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:43 pm

scannest wrote:The white nationalist who broke into Nancy Pelosi's office has been arrested. His name is Richard Barnett.

The "paper trail" left by these fucking jabronis on various social media platforms is insane. They (and their families) will claim they went to express their first amendment rights while their Parler accounts are full of "I've got my guns, let's go fucking do this!"

Parler itself is basically a good way for these turds to get arrested. Joining the site requires uploading personal info, including your drivers' license.

One of the reason these people did what they did is because they thought 45 would back them, and nothing bad would happen to them. Wrong.

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