xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:
Greg Sage and Doug Gillard are spectacular as well. I played Nada Surf's 'Let Go' more times than I can count. And Wipers 'Over the Edge' and 'Youth of America' too.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Fillavoid wrote:Andrew Chalfen (The Trolleyvox, I Think Like Midnight) - Again, like Hinrichs, he has a unique style that incorporates arpeggios. His sound has more twange and he uses vibrato to great effect. Underrated player.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:Fillavoid wrote:Andrew Chalfen (The Trolleyvox, I Think Like Midnight) - Again, like Hinrichs, he has a unique style that incorporates arpeggios. His sound has more twange and he uses vibrato to great effect. Underrated player.
Don’t forget the Wishniaks.
lewdd wrote:no votes for the Pixies or Bob Mould?
Fillavoid wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:Fillavoid wrote:Andrew Chalfen (The Trolleyvox, I Think Like Midnight) - Again, like Hinrichs, he has a unique style that incorporates arpeggios. His sound has more twange and he uses vibrato to great effect. Underrated player.
Don’t forget the Wishniaks.
I wasn't aware he was in an earlier band... I will definitely check them out!
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
lewdd wrote:If JGJR hasn't left us again, he surely has to give a vote for the Pixies.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:Rowland S. Howard - influenced pretty much all the indie guitar heroes who followed (Thurston and Lee, J. Mascis, Kevin Shields, etc.), or at least the ones I care about, then died in obscurity while Cave cashed in.
Cocteau Twins guitarist Robin Guthrie once told Melody Maker: "I remember listening to The Birthday Party on the radio thinking, 'fucking hell!' We'd be down the front at every gig, follow them around everywhere. When we were still young and stupid, these people were big stars to us. It was that big guitar noise you got on 'The Friend Catcher' that was one of the things that inspired us."
xxxMidgexxx wrote:For Against are/were underrated.
This one alone is a work of art.
In fact, imma bust it out right now.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:Fillavoid wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:Fillavoid wrote:Andrew Chalfen (The Trolleyvox, I Think Like Midnight) - Again, like Hinrichs, he has a unique style that incorporates arpeggios. His sound has more twange and he uses vibrato to great effect. Underrated player.
Don’t forget the Wishniaks.
I wasn't aware he was in an earlier band... I will definitely check them out!
I'm very impressed that you know who Andrew is, fillavoid. He's an old friend from my days in West Philly (so is Jim from The Wishniaks, FWIW), but I knew him from another message board /mailing list even before that. I interviewed him in 2008 when the last Trolleyvox album came out. I really like I Think Like Midnight, too.
I also very much like your For Against pick. Do you like the earlier and later records with Harry Dingman, too?
Fillavoid wrote:Hey JGJR, I had a feeling you might know Chalfen because I remember you saying you were from Philly. It's funny you should mention interviewing him in 2008 as that was the year I discovered The Trolleyvox. (Sidenote: I discovered them via the Julie Ocean Myspace page, so thanks xxxHunterxxx for that one. ).
As for For Against, I appreciate Harry Dingman's playing, too. I love Never Been from 2009, and those early For Against records are fantastic. With that said, I tend to favor the albums after December and Echelons. I'm thinking Aperture, Shelf Life, Mason's California Lunchroom, and Coalesced. I love the combination of Jeffrey Runnings's voice, Paul Englehard's drumming, and Steven Hinrichs's guitar. Just curious, I know that The Big Takeover has championed the band over the years. Have you interacted with the band much? Or seen them live? I noticed they played The Big Takeover's 30th Anniversary Show.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:Maybe I said this before, but I'm thinking that the Tom Verlaine - Richard Lloyd combo on THIS album is even better than their first 2 better known albums:
Their tone blending and playing is stunningly incredible.
scannest wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Maybe I said this before, but I'm thinking that the Tom Verlaine - Richard Lloyd combo on THIS album is even better than their first 2 better known albums:
Their tone blending and playing is stunningly incredible.
Not shocking, from the man who thinks David Johansen's first solo record is better than anything by the Dolls.
FormerLurker wrote:Chris Brokaw all day long.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:scannest wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Maybe I said this before, but I'm thinking that the Tom Verlaine - Richard Lloyd combo on THIS album is even better than their first 2 better known albums:
Their tone blending and playing is stunningly incredible.
Not shocking, from the man who thinks David Johansen's first solo record is better than anything by the Dolls.
And this from the Lloyd/Verlaine fan that can't even name 1 song from their 3rd album.
version sound wrote:FormerLurker wrote:Chris Brokaw all day long.
YAS QUEEN
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:scannest wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Maybe I said this before, but I'm thinking that the Tom Verlaine - Richard Lloyd combo on THIS album is even better than their first 2 better known albums:
Their tone blending and playing is stunningly incredible.
Not shocking, from the man who thinks David Johansen's first solo record is better than anything by the Dolls.
And this from the Lloyd/Verlaine fan that can't even name 1 song from their 3rd album.
Are you talking about that Tom Verlaine solo record the other members of Television played on?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:I'm sure you already know this, VS, but maybe other reading this don't. IIRC, his debut solo Lp was supposed to be a Television album originally or it consisted of songs Television definitely played live, most famously "Kingdom Come" since TV put it on his aforementioned s/t solo debut Lp in 1979 and Bowie covered it a year later on Scary Monsters.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:I'm sure you already know this, VS, but maybe other reading this don't. IIRC, his debut solo Lp was supposed to be a Television album originally or it consisted of songs Television definitely played live, most famously "Kingdom Come" since TV put it on his aforementioned s/t solo debut Lp in 1979 and Bowie covered it a year later on Scary Monsters.
My comment was meant to be a (maybe too) subtle jab about the fact that the third Television LP sounds more like a TV solo record than a group record. As for his actual first solo record, yeah, some of those songs go back at least to 1975. Also, it sounds more like a Television record because TV hadn’t changed his vocal style yet. The version of Breakin’ My Heart on that record is a top 3 Television track for me, in no small part due to Ricky Wilson’s contribution.
JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:FormerLurker wrote:Chris Brokaw all day long.
YAS QUEEN
Thirded; 1st Codeine album = I love it bigly.
FormerLurker wrote:JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:FormerLurker wrote:Chris Brokaw all day long.
YAS QUEEN
Thirded; 1st Codeine album = I love it bigly.
Except he drummed on that...
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:The interplay on the S/t 3rd Television album is some of the absolute best documented TV/RL committed to tape. Marquee Moon will always be the bands biggest album, but the 3rd album is better than 'Adventure' and I'd say pretty much that its also my favorite at this point especially after repeated listening on a good set of headphones.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
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JGJR wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:The interplay on the S/t 3rd Television album is some of the absolute best documented TV/RL committed to tape. Marquee Moon will always be the bands biggest album, but the 3rd album is better than 'Adventure' and I'd say pretty much that its also my favorite at this point especially after repeated listening on a good set of headphones.
Adventure is my favorite; still so incredibly underrated. Ducking....
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:The interplay on the S/t 3rd Television album is some of the absolute best documented TV/RL committed to tape. Marquee Moon will always be the bands biggest album, but the 3rd album is better than 'Adventure' and I'd say pretty much that its also my favorite at this point especially after repeated listening on a good set of headphones.
Adventure is my favorite; still so incredibly underrated. Ducking....
Overall, Adventure is probably my favorite, though the song “Marquee Moon” is probably my favorite Television track.
I listened to the S/T record yesterday. I liked it better than I remembered, but it’s still a distant third among the studio LPs and behind a couple of live records and TV solo records overall. It’s just so polite. If it wasn’t billed as Television, I would think it was TV solo. Richard Lloyd isn’t exactly a strong presence...
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:FormerLurker wrote:Chris Brokaw all day long.
YAS QUEEN
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