NY Mid 1980's crossover

[xxxMidgexxx]

I sorta liked it marginally back in the day, but lately I'm totally immersed in

LUDICHRIST 'Off the Board' live at CBGB tape.
CRUMBSUCKERS 'Life of Dreams'
LEEWAY 'Born to Expire'
AGNOSTIC FRONT 'Cause for Alarm'

and I always loved

PRONG 'Force Fed'
DAMAGE 'Live off the board at CBGB'

Funny how everything goes full circle. Decades.....

[FormerLurker]

Crumbsuckers were great.

[version sound]

Life of Dreams may be the best crossover record ever made, unless you consider Slayer crossover.

[FormerLurker]

I actually never heard BOMB.

[FormerLurker]

I vividly remember seeing this ad for BOMB in Thrasher and being bummed out. "Oh, they think they're Anthrax now."

[xxxMidgexxx]

I vividly remember seeing this ad for BOMB in Thrasher and being bummed out. "Oh, they think they're Anthrax now."

Yup... and even Exodus tried that 'tone down the evil, beef up the good times fun' look for a while.




I did not have to buy it....
and I did not have to try it.

And I am glad they turned back to a darker attack.


What next, fer godssakes? Brian Baker playing in Ugly Kid Joe?

[xxxMidgexxx]

unless you consider Slayer crossover.

'Hell Awaits' and 'Haunting..' were crossover. They've always professed their love for punk and HxC. It's what pushed them up the ladder.

[Gary]

I actually never heard BOMB.

Keep it that way.

[xxxMidgexxx]

And don't bother with Scatterbrain either.

Ludichrist was MUCH better.

[AssWreckersInc]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f9AmbONyqGM

Lethal Aggression, this gig at City Gardens was a highlight of the crossover era

[JGJR]

I sorta liked it marginally back in the day, but lately I'm totally immersed in

LUDICHRIST 'Off the Board' live at CBGB tape.
CRUMBSUCKERS 'Life of Dreams'
LEEWAY 'Born to Expire'
AGNOSTIC FRONT 'Cause for Alarm'

and I always loved

PRONG 'Force Fed'
DAMAGE 'Live off the board at CBGB'

Funny how everything goes full circle. Decades.....

Force Fed is OK but Beg to Differ is a complete tour de force that I play regularly to this day.

[xxxMidgexxx]

Lethal Aggression,

I loved their demo. Saw their first show ever at L'Amours in Brooklyn. Jon Saltz ate too many ludes before the gig. They played 'Spooge' and then after that he lost the mic.

Stumbled off stage and the band called it quits after 3, 4(?) songs. Shorter set than GG Allin.

[xxxMidgexxx]

Force Fed is OK but Beg to Differ is a complete tour de force that I play regularly to this day.

Decibel magazine put it into their Hall of Fame. I think its their best selling album.
Tommy just made anniversary shirts.

[gregpolard]

I love Leeway. Semi hot take but I actually prefer “Desperate Measures” over “Born To Expire”.

[JGJR]

Force Fed is OK but Beg to Differ is a complete tour de force that I play regularly to this day.

Decibel magazine put it into their Hall of Fame. I think its their best selling album.
Tommy just made anniversary shirts.

Which record are you referring to?

[AssWreckersInc]

Lethal Aggression,

I loved their demo. Saw their first show ever at L'Amours in Brooklyn. Jon Saltz ate too many ludes before the gig. They played 'Spooge' and then after that he lost the mic.

Stumbled off stage and the band called it quits after 3, 4(?) songs. Shorter set than GG Allin.

Haha he was usually way in point no matter what he was on. RIP to him. He was invited to try out for Metallica once (he was one of their roadies when they were living in Jersey).

[SamDBL]

I vividly remember seeing this ad for BOMB in Thrasher and being bummed out. "Oh, they think they're Anthrax now."

Lulz. Instant write-off when these bands (Wehrmacht,mod/sod, dri, etc) went through their ‘zany’ phases.

[xxxMidgexxx]

Instant write-off when these bands (Wehrmacht,mod/sod, dri, etc) went through their ‘zany’ phases.

Are beach jams not metal?

A: No they are not.

[lewdd]

Stigma invented crossover. I'm sure he has that in print somewhere.

[xxxMidgexxx]

Stigma invented crossover. I'm sure he has that in print somewhere.

Absolutely not. Agnostic Front's first album was pure hardcore. The best of the best. By the time the 2nd album was being written, they had Alex from Cause for Alarm playing 2nd guitar.
Stigma was toned down in the mix and Alex was turned up, fact had it that Roger wanted speed metal because they loved Exodus and Metallica, and that was not Stigma's thing. He was pure old school hxC.

[lewdd]

C'mon, you act like you were there

[xxxMidgexxx]

C'mon, you act like you were there

I read about it on some hip hop blog.

[lewdd]

C'mon, you act like you were there

I read about it on some hip hop blog.

Makes sense but I thought you were a house music guy

[xxxMidgexxx]

C'mon, you act like you were there

I read about it on some hip hop blog.

Makes sense but I thought you were a house music guy

Well yes, but if you want the REAL 411, yo...you gotsa keep it real.

[lewdd]

Yeah, Doctor Dre and Ed Lover were the shit!

[xxxMidgexxx]

Yeah, Doctor Dre and Ed Lover were the shit!

I always thought Dre was hetero...

[lewdd]

I didn't know them as well as you so I can't speak to his sexual orientation.

[xxxMidgexxx]

I didn't know them as well as you so I can't speak to his sexual orientation.

well....you said Dre and Ed lover.

I doubt Ed was a woman.


GO TO SLEEP, Lewdd. You're starting to annoy me.

[lewdd]

Going to have to give some of these bands a try out this weekend after reading about them in NYHC book.

[drew]

Lewdd,

Check out:

AF- Liberty & justice...
Crumbsuckers- Life of dreams
Cro-Mags- Age of Quarrel(the LP not the demo)




Those are the best NY-crossover albums IMO

[xxxMidgexxx]

AF- Liberty & justice...

That album got shredded in so many zines. Its TOTAL SPEED METAL.

Will Sheplar rocked that kit though. I still love this album, Agnostic Front showed ZERO punk roots on this one. Its TOTAL Kreator, Slayer, Metallica Exodus.....speed metal

[SamDBL]

'tone down the evil, beef up the good times fun'

Lol. Perfect. What the hell was with that? Dude, wear goofy shorts, make zany faces, smash empty beer cans on your head and MOSH! I feel like that ridiculous shit originated with Anthrax?

[SamDBL]

And don't bother with Scatterbrain either.

Ludichrist was MUCH better.

Yes, I used to have a friend that actually liked scatterbrain. I made fun of him quite a bit. Funk metal garbage. They did have a great album cover by Robert Williams if I recall. Back when album covers meant something. Totally misleading.

[xxxMidgexxx]

Funk metal

A scourge that I'm happy is gone. Equally as bad as hair-metal.

[Markonomicon]

Life of Dreams may be the best crossover record ever made

3 way tied with the Accused "Return Of Martha Splatterhead" and "Maddest Stories" for me.

Crumsuckers were on fire on that lp.