SamDBL wrote:I feel like John Joseph does enough of kissing Bad Brains' collective ass for 1000 people. Has that dude ever *not* praised them in an interview? He just did a Joe Rogan episode about dietary stuff. I'm kind of curious how he worked Bad Brains into that.
I've always loved that first Cro Mags record. I do remember a lot of my friends being turned off to it for being too metal.
captain2man wrote:They were both released in '86, so I'm honestly not sure which record was recorded or released first, but seems to me that Agnostic Front's 'Cause for Alarm' should get a lot more credit as one of the first crossover records.
It was a literal merging of hardcore guys (Miret, Stigma, Kabula) and metal guys (Kinion & Beatto) to create something that was a pure blend of styles.
SamDBL wrote:They were definitely ny meat head music. *But* they were the pinnacle of it, imo. They never came close to replicating that first album, though.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:SamDBL wrote:They were definitely ny meat head music. *But* they were the pinnacle of it, imo. They never came close to replicating that first album, though.
All of that; plus I hear lots of Motorhead and Black Sabbath on AOQ in addition to the massive Bad Brains influence. Harley wasn't always that way, though. Apparently, a trip to Northern Ireland either towards the end of The Stimulators or right after that really changed him.
JGJR wrote: COC, Void, Discharge...making hardcore heavy was nothing new.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:SamDBL wrote:They were definitely ny meat head music. *But* they were the pinnacle of it, imo. They never came close to replicating that first album, though.
All of that; plus I hear lots of Motorhead and Black Sabbath on AOQ in addition to the massive Bad Brains influence. Harley wasn't always that way, though. Apparently, a trip to Northern Ireland either towards the end of The Stimulators or right after that really changed him.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy AOQ and the demo, but definitely not as much as a lot of people. Musically, I don’t hear that much new in either. COC, Void, Discharge...making hardcore heavy was nothing new.
SamDBL wrote:I would definitely not say it broke any new ground. But I just thought it was the best example of that crew cut metal moshcore that specifically New York hardcore was all about at that time. I liked cause for alarm and the first Soia album, too. I just thought there was something that really tied AOQ together really well. Possibly the drummer was a big part. I think that guitar player probably had a lot to do with it, too. I only say that because everything they have done without those two guys in the band at the same time has been ultra generic and boring, imo.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:
All of that; plus I hear lots of Motorhead and Black Sabbath on AOQ in addition to the massive Bad Brains influence. Harley wasn't always that way, though. Apparently, a trip to Northern Ireland either towards the end of The Stimulators or right after that really changed him.
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