Mark E. Smith RIP

Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby JGJR » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:10 pm

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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:49 am

didnt he beat up his women?
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby JGJR » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:02 pm

xxxMidgexxx wrote:didnt he beat up his women?


He did; not a great person by any stretch of the imagination, but a brilliant lyricist/frontman/mad genius IMO.
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:22 pm

JGJR wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:didnt he beat up his women?


He did; not a great person by any stretch .


fuck em
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby JGJR » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:14 am

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xxxMidgexxx wrote:didnt he beat up his women?


He did; not a great person by any stretch .


fuck em


Harsh; one of my favorite artists ever, just so you know.
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:16 pm

JGJR wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:
JGJR wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:didnt he beat up his women?


He did; not a great person by any stretch .


fuck em


Harsh; one of my favorite artists ever, just so you know.



I know. I never "got" him. Typically I would have not have said that. But I also said fuck GG when he died and I liked him. he was pretty offensive and violent to women who encouraged it. Did Mark's women encourage it?
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby JGJR » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:38 pm

xxxMidgexxx wrote:
JGJR wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:
JGJR wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:didnt he beat up his women?


He did; not a great person by any stretch .


fuck em


Harsh; one of my favorite artists ever, just so you know.



I know. I never "got" him. Typically I would have not have said that. But I also said fuck GG when he died and I liked him. he was pretty offensive and violent to women who encouraged it. Did Mark's women encourage it?


I read Brix's book (which paints him in a complicated and ultimately very sad way) and she made a statement yesterday.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news ... th-w515888
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:47 pm

I had absolutely zero clue what he was trying to do with his music. It made no sense to me at all. One time, when I was interning to be a DJ at WSIA, the Jock who's show I had to sit in on, she played the 12" of 'Mr. Pharmacist' which I thought was an OK song. I immediately thought that The Fall was like some kind of Lux Interior association. I tried listening to other music but none of it made any sense to me. It did not resonate with my body or mind. I was too deep into SWANS, Black Flag, Metal, extreme noise and shit like that. C'est la vie.

PS; She also played 12"s by Executive Slacks with long tape loops. Outlandish noise and I loved that shit, so go figure. I'm a mess.
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby FlexMyHead » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:19 pm

Not familiar with band, "heard of them, haven't heard them". The statement written by ex-wife seems like Stockholm Syndrome-ish. Dude sounds dodgy as fuck. The amount of material written and band members he abandoned along the way is staggering. He was no Christie Front Drive, that is for sure.
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby Beach Log » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:45 pm

Please redo this thread but make it about Doug E. Fresh.
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:08 pm

Beach Log wrote:Please redo this thread but make it about Doug E. Fresh.


Is that the guy that's trying to hock his cheesy faux Brit writing skills on this board? Forget it. He's just as unreliable as Michael Kors or Uggs boots. In fact, I'm going to write them a nasty gram right now and give them a stern written finger waggin for wasting my time.
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby JGJR » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:58 am

FlexMyHead wrote:Not familiar with band, "heard of them, haven't heard them". The statement written by ex-wife seems like Stockholm Syndrome-ish. Dude sounds dodgy as fuck. The amount of material written and band members he abandoned along the way is staggering. He was no Christie Front Drive, that is for sure.


You should read her book. She doesn't gloss over things.
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby XBambi's RevengeX » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:03 pm

I saw them once. Played for about 25-30 mins with MES constantly going on and off stage (snorting lines probably), until he eventually didn't come back. His missus (on keys) was wearing her large overcoat and comically oversized handbag the entire gig, in anticipation of having to run after him (which she did, at the end, and convinced him to play one last song). I'm pretty sure his willy was flapping out of its pocket for a period of the evening too.


7/10 gig, also notable for my first time experiencing mushrooms
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby FlexMyHead » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:57 pm

JGJR wrote:
You should read her book. She doesn't gloss over things.


Well, I read her short statement about his death. Tell me if this basically sums up the book:

BEING MARRIED TO MARK e SMITH is a condition that causes hostages to develop a psychological alliance with their captors as a survival strategy during captivity. These feelings, resulting from a bond formed between captor and captives during intimate time spent together, are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims. Generally speaking, BEING MARRIED TO MARK e SMITH consists of "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other
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Re: Mark E. Smith RIP

Postby JGJR » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:03 pm

FlexMyHead wrote:
JGJR wrote:
You should read her book. She doesn't gloss over things.


Well, I read her short statement about his death. Tell me if this basically sums up the book:

BEING MARRIED TO MARK e SMITH is a condition that causes hostages to develop a psychological alliance with their captors as a survival strategy during captivity. These feelings, resulting from a bond formed between captor and captives during intimate time spent together, are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims. Generally speaking, BEING MARRIED TO MARK e SMITH consists of "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other


Just read it and then get back to me. It's much more complex than what you're suggesting, but yes of course was large elements of that at work.
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