Flag Day
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:06 amTonight! With TSOL. I don't think I've been this excited for a show since I was a teenager.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:06 amRe: Flag Day
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:23 amEnjoy! Wednesday for me (and JGJR). Stoked!
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:46 amOh shit, is it 1981? No? Pass.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:53 amversion sound wrote:Oh shit, is it 1981? No? Pass.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:00 amversion sound wrote:Oh shit, is it 1981? No? Pass.
I keep forgetting you're a shut in who hates punk rock.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:02 amgregpolard wrote:version sound wrote:Oh shit, is it 1981? No? Pass.
"Old Men Yell on Stage" would be a more appropriate headline.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:19 amversion sound wrote:gregpolard wrote:version sound wrote:Oh shit, is it 1981? No? Pass.
"Old Men Yell on Stage" would be a more appropriate headline.
haha very true. But with the day I'm having already today at work, some "Black Flag" would be very theraputic.
Re: Flag Day
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:25 amThat's what Spotify is for.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:35 amYou & I both, my constantly mustache-growing friend. 
Hunter, I don't know (if Meowgirl can make it due to really exhausting early work-schedule 
) but I'm going to try my damnedest to get to this amazing event somehow. This & Cat's recent Anniversary are too events I've been waiting anxiously for months (and with FLAG, maybe forever 
) and Keith's being so generous to get me + 1 in. Man, I'm actually contemplating the Marc Train to B'mo but don't think it'll get me back to DC afterwards. Grrrrr. 
Who are you going there with 
Hunter, I don't know (if Meowgirl can make it due to really exhausting early work-schedule ) but I'm going to try my damnedest to get to this amazing event somehow. This & Cat's recent Anniversary are too events I've been waiting anxiously for months (and with FLAG, maybe forever ) and Keith's being so generous to get me + 1 in. Man, I'm actually contemplating the Marc Train to B'mo but don't think it'll get me back to DC afterwards. Grrrrr. Who are you going there with Re: Flag Day
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:36 amSaw TSOL a few weeks ago and really enjoyed them.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:02 amjohn stabb wrote:You & I both, my constantly mustache-growing friend.
I can pick you up at Friendship Heights metro at 6:15.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:27 pmhope i get to see them some day.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:42 pmFlag played Riot Fest on Saturday. I went into it with super low expectations. I went out of it thinking they were awesome. Best Black Flag cover band ever (I don't consider either version of Black or Flag to be Black Flag) and Keith Morris is still one of the best punk rock singers ever. When Dez sang some songs I was also reminded why he is my least favorite BF singer but even that was alright.
Re: Flag Day
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:15 pmI posted before, but they kicked ass when I saw 'em at GV30 and PRB 2013.
I need another fix
I need another fix
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:40 pmDukowski is sporting an Adventuretime tee.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:53 pmCan't wait for Thursday.....
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:00 pmMilo looks a lot like Scannest.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:35 amxxxHunterxxx wrote:Milo looks a lot like Scannest.
Which Milo?
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:41 amThe one who sang Damaged.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:48 amI'd put that in my list of ten best shows I've attended. Both bands were killer. Dukowski (which auto correct wants to change to "Sukiyaki") is the most animated bass player I've ever seen.
Re: Flag Day
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:36 amAlso, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
What's the difference?
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:43 amgregpolard wrote:Also, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
Everyone knows that OFF! sounds more like early period Circle Jerks than early period Black Flag. Now I haven't really heard a lot of Flag, but my guess is they sound more like early-mid period Black Flag than early-mid period Circle Jerks. Flag probably has some pf Swa's bass sound mixed in there too.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:46 amxxxHunterxxx wrote:The one who sang Damaged.
So let me get this straight? Milo drove down from DE to sang "Damaged" (which one?)? I hope he makes it to the show here tomorrow night!
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:51 ampedro wrote:gregpolard wrote:Also, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
Everyone knows that OFF! sounds more like early period Circle Jerks than early period Black Flag. Now I haven't really heard a lot of Flag, but my guess is they sound more like early-mid period Black Flag than early-mid period Circle Jerks. Flag probably has some pf Swa's bass sound mixed in there too.
And plenty of post-Danzig Misfits/Redd Kross/DC3/Carnage Asada/Vida/Duff McKagan's Loaded rhythm guitar goodness.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:52 ampedro wrote:gregpolard wrote:Also, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
Flag probably has some pf Swa's bass sound mixed in there too.
that's the only reason i am going to see them.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:54 ampedro wrote:gregpolard wrote:Also, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
Everyone knows that OFF! sounds more like early period Circle Jerks than early period Black Flag. Now I haven't really heard a lot of Flag, but my guess is they sound more like early-mid period Black Flag than early-mid period Circle Jerks. Flag probably has some pf Swa's bass sound mixed in there too.
Should have clarified. I meant more in terms of him saying "old dudes screaming on a stage".
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:56 amJGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:The one who sang Damaged.
So let me get this straight? Milo drove down from DE to sang "Damaged" (which one?)? I hope he makes it to the show here tomorrow night!
1) yes
2) I
3) I'm sure you do.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:59 am1) I heard he took the bus.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:22 amgregpolard wrote:pedro wrote:gregpolard wrote:Also, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
Everyone knows that OFF! sounds more like early period Circle Jerks than early period Black Flag. Now I haven't really heard a lot of Flag, but my guess is they sound more like early-mid period Black Flag than early-mid period Circle Jerks. Flag probably has some pf Swa's bass sound mixed in there too.
Should have clarified. I meant more in terms of him saying "old dudes screaming on a stage".
OFF! = old men screaming new songs
Flag = old men screaming old songs
I'm not above attending the odd reunion show so I can hold it over the heads of those who could not attend, but the whole 50 year old dudes reliving their hardcore youth thing is pretty unseemly.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:40 am"I just flew in from Delaware. Boy are my arms tired" (Damaged kicks in)
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:57 amversion sound wrote:gregpolard wrote:pedro wrote:gregpolard wrote:Also, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
Everyone knows that OFF! sounds more like early period Circle Jerks than early period Black Flag. Now I haven't really heard a lot of Flag, but my guess is they sound more like early-mid period Black Flag than early-mid period Circle Jerks. Flag probably has some pf Swa's bass sound mixed in there too.
Should have clarified. I meant more in terms of him saying "old dudes screaming on a stage".
OFF! = old men screaming new songs
Flag = old men screaming old songs
I'm not above attending the odd reunion show so I can hold it over the heads of those who could not attend, but the whole 50 year old dudes reliving their hardcore youth thing is pretty unseemly.
People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:01 amgregpolard wrote:"I just flew in from Delaware. Boy are my arms tired" (Damaged kicks in)
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:27 amxxxHoonterxxx wrote:People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
I forgot you hate the spirit of punk rock. I bet you can't wait for the next Stones tour.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:44 amversion sound wrote:xxxHoonterxxx wrote:People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
I forgot you hate the spirit of punk rock. I bet you can't wait for the next Stones tour.
I forgot you confuse punk rock with Logan's Run.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:04 amxxxHunterxxx wrote:version sound wrote:xxxHoonterxxx wrote:People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
I forgot you hate the spirit of punk rock. I bet you can't wait for the next Stones tour.
I forgot you confuse punk rock with Logan's Run.
Maybe target can set up a meeting with the guys from Red Hare and they can explain punk rock to you.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:24 amversion sound wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:version sound wrote:xxxHoonterxxx wrote:People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
I forgot you hate the spirit of punk rock. I bet you can't wait for the next Stones tour.
I forgot you confuse punk rock with Logan's Run.
Maybe target can set up a meeting with the guys from Red Hare and they can explain punk rock to you.
That'd be awesome. After they're done, maybe Jason can show me his video of Flag at the Moose Lodge.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:59 amxxxHunterxxx wrote:version sound wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:version sound wrote:xxxHoonterxxx wrote:People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
I forgot you hate the spirit of punk rock. I bet you can't wait for the next Stones tour.
I forgot you confuse punk rock with Logan's Run.
Maybe target can set up a meeting with the guys from Red Hare and they can explain punk rock to you.
That'd be awesome. After they're done, maybe Jason can show me his video of Flag at the Moose Lodge.
That guy's great at making old stuff seem exciting and new. He's a true artist. You wouldn't catch him trotting out the oldies for a victory lap of a tour.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:15 amxxxHunterxxx wrote:People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
My thoughts exactly when I saw DOA last week.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:02 pmxxxHunterxxx wrote:Milo looks a lot like Scannest.
That's funny, cuz someone at Riot Fest totally thought I was Greg Graffin. Congratulated me on my awesome set Friday night.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:39 pmxxxHunterxxx wrote:version sound wrote:gregpolard wrote:pedro wrote:gregpolard wrote:Also, wait a second VS but don't you like OFF?
What's the difference?
Everyone knows that OFF! sounds more like early period Circle Jerks than early period Black Flag. Now I haven't really heard a lot of Flag, but my guess is they sound more like early-mid period Black Flag than early-mid period Circle Jerks. Flag probably has some pf Swa's bass sound mixed in there too.
Should have clarified. I meant more in terms of him saying "old dudes screaming on a stage".
OFF! = old men screaming new songs
Flag = old men screaming old songs
I'm not above attending the odd reunion show so I can hold it over the heads of those who could not attend, but the whole 50 year old dudes reliving their hardcore youth thing is pretty unseemly.
People get old. If it makes them happy to play a bunch of great songs they wrote a long time ago, I don't see anything unseemly about it -- particularly if they play the songs as well as TSOL and Flag do.
This. Also, why do Dag Nasty, Marginal Man and DYS get a free pass but not Flag or TSOL?
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:46 pmThey don't. I saw those bands just to annoy people who couldn't. Now go to my goddamn Proper Ornaments thread, since you are just about the only person on the board with enough taste to appreciate them.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:44 pmduring the encore of PRB, Dez sang Damaged.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:10 pmversion sound wrote:They don't. I saw those bands just to annoy people who couldn't. Now go to my goddamn Proper Ornaments thread, since you are just about the only person on the board with enough taste to appreciate them.
I saw it and it's intriguing just based upon the VF comparison, but I haven't gotten a chance to check it out yet (soon).
Regardless, I don't believe you re: those shows. That would be a dumb reason to go to a show, especially since as the parent of a toddler you don't get to do it too often (believe me, I know that feeling now).
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:48 pmI don't think anyone was annoyed that someone went to see DYS. Have you ever seen the comments on their YouTube?
(full disclosure: I like DYS, even some of the new stuff)
(full disclosure: I like DYS, even some of the new stuff)
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:07 pmgregpolard wrote:I don't think anyone was annoyed that someone went to see DYS. Have you ever seen the comments on their YouTube?
(full disclosure: I like DYS, even some of the new stuff)
this is the only place on the internet where i have seen people say they like new dys.
i guess at this point i have no real take on the legitimacy of reunions or not, esp for punks. i just assume 99 percent of them are in it for the money they couldn't get the first time around. if you show up with some guys that wrote the music and the original singer and can play, i will probably fork over my money to see you. as touring gets harder and inflated guarantees continue to be the new trend, i have faced the fact that i will prolly miss most of the reunited bands i really want to see since they only play select cities or one off festivals like chaos or MDF. i mean, FLAG are touring the east coast before they ever did an L.A. show, and that date is at FYF fest.
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:06 amyourenotevil wrote:gregpolard wrote:I don't think anyone was annoyed that someone went to see DYS. Have you ever seen the comments on their YouTube?
(full disclosure: I like DYS, even some of the new stuff)
this is the only place on the internet where i have seen people say they like new dys.
i guess at this point i have no real take on the legitimacy of reunions or not, esp for punks. i just assume 99 percent of them are in it for the money they couldn't get the first time around. if you show up with some guys that wrote the music and the original singer and can play, i will probably fork over my money to see you. as touring gets harder and inflated guarantees continue to be the new trend, i have faced the fact that i will prolly miss most of the reunited bands i really want to see since they only play select cities or one off festivals like chaos or MDF. i mean, FLAG are touring the east coast before they ever did an L.A. show, and that date is at FYF fest.
I mean, I will never willingly listen to the new DYS stuff really.....but at the same time I have to respect them for at least giving it a shot and trying.
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:20 amDYS "Unloaded" is a good song. If you don't like it, you might not like punk rock.
As for a lot of the punk rock reunions just being in it for the money, I disagree. Sure - some are able to draw big crowds, pull in the young kids, and probably do well. But I've seen plenty of aging punk rockers and reunion acts play to very small crowds and empty-ish clubs. If they're just in it for the money, there are better ways to do it. Break even, or maybe take home a little, but I think very few bands are turning it into a really profitable cashgrab. To me it looks like a lot of folks just want to get up and play, and the money is secondary motivation.
As for a lot of the punk rock reunions just being in it for the money, I disagree. Sure - some are able to draw big crowds, pull in the young kids, and probably do well. But I've seen plenty of aging punk rockers and reunion acts play to very small crowds and empty-ish clubs. If they're just in it for the money, there are better ways to do it. Break even, or maybe take home a little, but I think very few bands are turning it into a really profitable cashgrab. To me it looks like a lot of folks just want to get up and play, and the money is secondary motivation.
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:32 amNotBaker wrote:DYS "Unloaded" is a good song. If you don't like it, you might not like punk rock.
As for a lot of the punk rock reunions just being in it for the money, I disagree. Sure - some are able to draw big crowds, pull in the young kids, and probably do well. But I've seen plenty of aging punk rockers and reunion acts play to very small crowds and empty-ish clubs. If they're just in it for the money, there are better ways to do it. Break even, or maybe take home a little, but I think very few bands are turning it into a really profitable cashgrab. To me it looks like a lot of folks just want to get up and play, and the money is secondary motivation.
Sure - that's
It's a good song but it sounds more suited for Dag Nasty than DYS.
Re: Flag Day
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:46 amDYS were great when I saw them. I think the new songs are good, but they aren't really my cup of tea. I respect the fact that they aren't just playing the hits, though.
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:06 am