Trump Rally..

Re: Trump Rally..

Postby jaybird » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:25 am

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What does that have to do with Brinsley Schwarz?


It appears that everyone who covers this song is actually a racist.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby the mean » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:28 am

I feel like we need to bring this thread back for this election cycle:
http://www.daghouse.com/jacopo/viewtopic.php?t=16680
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:03 am

Good thread.

Would read again.

Matches the level of maturity of the subject matter.

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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby lewdd » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:33 am

The USA presidential race has become the laughing stock of the world. We don't have to overthrow our leaders like other parts of the world. Our leaders take care of running themselves off.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:40 am

lewdd wrote:The USA presidential race has become the laughing stock of the world. We don't have to overthrow our leaders like other parts of the world. Our leaders take care of running themselves off.


Trump's playing with fire with these adolescent taunts. You're gonna end up with race riots at this rate.

And all for what? Divide and conquer. Same old shit.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:09 pm

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That's it. I'm burning all of my Ray Charles records.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:14 pm

Welly wrote:Good thread.

Would read again.

Matches the level of maturity of the subject matter.

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There is no doubt he would be a horrible President. He's shown horrible leadership ability, no apparent knowledge of anything, no platforms to speak of, and generally a shitty disposition with a temper and bad attitude.

But, I have yet to see evidence that he is racist, or 'like Hitler'. That's all. I'm kind of being calibrated so that when I hear those two charges, I assume that they are totally baseless and meaningless. Good job, Means of the world!
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby jaybird » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:23 pm

I'm actually kinda curious to see what would happen if he gets elected. Like, what happens when arguably the biggest asshole on the face of the Earth is also the most powerful person on the planet?
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:40 pm

I keep picturing meetings with other world leaders ending with glasses of water thrown in their faces. I'm too old to be drafted, so I'm not that worried about it.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:46 pm

SamDBL wrote:There is no doubt he would be a horrible President. He's shown horrible leadership ability, no apparent knowledge of anything, no platforms to speak of, and generally a shitty disposition with a temper and bad attitude.

But, I have yet to see evidence that he is racist, or 'like Hitler'. That's all. I'm kind of being calibrated so that when I hear those two charges, I assume that they are totally baseless and meaningless. Good job, Means of the world!


I get what you're saying, totally get it, but it's all symptomatic of the polarisation he manufactures, and it all plays into his hands.

I just don't see the point at going at each other on here over it, it just causes bad feeling.

I bet just as many of an opposing view say Sanders is a Communist as claim Trump is like Hitler.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby lewdd » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:52 pm

All of this rhetoric should make for a good decade of punk rock coming up like during the Reagan Admin.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:58 pm

lewdd wrote:All of this rhetoric should make for a good decade of punk rock coming up like during the Reagan Admin.


Ha, it would, although Trump Youth doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

I don't see him becoming President. But if by some fluke he does, your country is fucked. We're all fucked.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:03 pm

I get what you're saying, totally get it, but it's all symptomatic of the polarisation he manufactures, and it all plays into his hands.


I feel as much polarization from the other side. He's an asshole. So are the people charging his rallies, then blaming it on him and his racism/hitler-esque rhetoric. I find tossing that sort of language around, flippantly and with no basis in reality just to get people charged up as annoying as anything he says about building a wall, or whatever. I also don't see doing something wrong because you're mad at someone making it that person's fault instead of your own. I can't see one side in the argument being heroic. They are both idiotic. And responsible.

I just don't see the point at going at each other on here over it, it just causes bad feeling.


I simply asked a question. Show me evidence of his racism. What I got back was a bunch of -ism slinging in my general direction, and no actual evidence of racism from the Donald. I am not sure how this is supposed to reflect poorly on Donald Trump.

I bet just as many of an opposing view say Sanders is a Communist as claim Trump is like Hitler.


I really don't know. I've never heard anyone call Sanders a Communist. Because being called a Socialist is just as bad in most peoples' eyes. And in any case, he is still closer to Communism than Trump is to Hitler. Until Trump start giving rallies citing that certain groups are parasitic viruses to be cleansed, while firing up some mass murder devices, I will continue to think that calling him, or any other American politician that I know of, Hitler, to be completely idiotic, counter-productive, and definitely offensive. It's so stupid to me that someone that charges someone with homophobia because they mention getting fucked in the ass can't see that minimizing the atrocities of Hitler is much more directly pissing in a minority group's face.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby johnnotkathi » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:09 pm

funny, Trump called Sanders a communist within that last day or two....
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:22 pm

SamDBL wrote:
I get what you're saying, totally get it, but it's all symptomatic of the polarisation he manufactures, and it all plays into his hands.


I feel as much polarization from the other side.


I meant polarisation - both sides. The politically correct AND the politically incorrect.

And this is what he does, stirs the shit storm. A narcissist appearing to be the master of ceremonies, when in reality he's a snake oil salesman.

But don't get too wound up, I just watched people on the right compare Obama to Hitler for the last eight years. Before that it was Bush by the left. Ad infinitum.

Talking of Hitler...

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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby lewdd » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:32 pm

Good thing there is an NCAA basketball tourney (well, 4 actually) tonight to occupy some of our time from the party political bullshit on the other channels.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby FlexMyHead » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:34 pm

This is kinda on-topic and kinda off-topic, but at my real job (not my Hummel and record collecting one) part of what I have to do is evaluate children, often below the age of 6, with various issues that impacted them enough to be getting services from the public school system under the category of "Developmentally Delayed" (DD for short). In Florida, children can be identified as DD up until the age of six, so basically, they get services from 3 to 6 and then (typically before they enter Kindergarten) we evaluate them to remove the DD label and see if they meet the criteria for another category to continue to get services to assist with any delays they still may have. (longest fucking intro before getting to the point? I think YES).

So my point deals with "terms/words" and associations/meanings placed on them. As the Dead Milkmen sang about, let's look at a group of kids who like to be rounded up and taken to the zoo, yup, I'm talking about the retards. Before my time, in the schools they just called it Mental Retardation. Up to about 7 years ago, we had 3 different levels of Mental Retardation that were a little more descriptive, that would be Educable Mentally Handicapped, Trainable Mentally Handicapped and Severe & Profoundly Mentally Handicapped. Personally, I really really really totally and really HATED having to sit at a meeting with parents of, for example, a Down's Syndrome kid and tell them "well, you got yourself a Trainable Mentally Handicapped kid". Parent's would freak the fuck out at the word "Trainable", comments I heard over the years "You think my child is a monkey who can be taught to beg and plead? HE IS MORE THAN THAT." etc. I get it. Watching parents process having a special needs child is a different type of grief process. The grieve for all the things they thought their child might have one day done, but now realize the possibility is slim. Some parent's embrace it and focus on the positives, other's get mad and stay mad. Anyway, so currently they have scrapped the 3 different Mentally Handicapped terms and it's just Intellectually Disabled (InD). So we have the same meeting as 7 years ago, come up with the same results (as the definition of Mental Retardation, EMH, TMH, S/PMH and InD are the FUCKING SAME) but now we say they are Intellectual Disabled, but as soon as they parents go away we say "Ok, so they need an EMH, TMH or S/PMH class?". The point is, when we had three different levels and terms, just by knowing that, we knew their IQ range and a rough estimate of their adaptive level, but because the terms were thought to be harsh, we now are less descriptive and more vague and people just use the terms anyway when parent's aren't around, not to mock the kids, but to have an informed discussion of their needs. We changed the terms, not because they were not defined correctly, but because of what people thought of when they heard the words. Retardation was viewed not by it's description, but by the emotion is caused when heard by someone hearing it.

Anyhoo, I think people using terms like "fucked in the ass" when they mean "negative" or "not desired outcome", is just not really thinking how it might come across rather than being hateful or whatever. I can't believe I'm using a NOFX lyric, but I think they covered the topic as well:

There's no fun in Bible study class
There's no fun getting fucked in the ass by a priest
Unless your old and into that,
It's no Fun for a kid who is scared as shit


So final verdict, do I think SamDBL hates the gays as much as Dave Smalley? No way, I just think he uses the terms to mean (pardon the pun) something that is negative or not good, and isn't really considering that being fucked in the ass isn't always a bad thing, depending on who you are and who is doing it (and I guess your age and if it's a priest!). I don't think he is lumping all assfucking into negative land.

Trust me, I used Fuel's "The Name Is" as a basis for an oral presentation in graduate school, I do care, but I think sometimes people get too caught up in words/phrases with people that they know etc.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby jaybird » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:55 pm

FlexMyHead wrote:So final verdict, do I think SamDBL hates the gays as much as Dave Smalley?





















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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby FlexMyHead » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:22 pm

jaybird wrote:
FlexMyHead wrote:So final verdict, do I think SamDBL hates the gays as much as Dave Smalley?


Ah, I was having a bit of fun! I grew up with English humor, I mean humour, where taking the piss out of someone, I mean knocking either yourself or someone else down a bit just to make sure we all can laugh, is ingrained into you from a very early age. I think Dave hates the gays just as much as Sam, give or take. See I did it again!
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby jaybird » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:40 pm

I wasn't sure if maybe he'd gone off the deep end and thrown in with some new ConservaPunk™ bit all bitter about gay marriage.

I mean, it's kinda plausible.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:10 pm

johnnotkathi wrote:funny, Trump called Sanders a communist within that last day or two....


Still, it's not as far off the mark. If we're so concerned with reading into every single word we say so as not to offend anyone on the planet's delicate sensibilities, I'd think calling some dipshit reality star the equivalent of Hitler would be a pretty huge red flag. But I guess the holocaust stuff has had it's day, and is not the current cause du' jour for bleeding heart psychos. Anyhow, I think if people were comparing Sanders to Stalin, you might have a more equal analogy to Trump = Hitler. I don't really see that happening. Yet.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby johnnotkathi » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:56 am

SamDBL wrote:
johnnotkathi wrote:funny, Trump called Sanders a communist within that last day or two....


Still, it's not as far off the mark. If we're so concerned with reading into every single word we say so as not to offend anyone on the planet's delicate sensibilities, I'd think calling some dipshit reality star the equivalent of Hitler would be a pretty huge red flag. But I guess the holocaust stuff has had it's day, and is not the current cause du' jour for bleeding heart psychos. Anyhow, I think if people were comparing Sanders to Stalin, you might have a more equal analogy to Trump = Hitler. I don't really see that happening. Yet.


Maybe, I honestly just don't know. Bernie has referred to himself as a socialist for some time but how many actual "socialist" programs have come to fruition in his state is unknown to me.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby target » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:31 pm

Let's talk about politics!! Do people who are offended by trump have delicate sensitivities??
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:09 pm

C'mon... you have to admit it would've been pretty funny to experience the supernova explosion of all the self-righteous celebrity/college students/social justice warriors' heads, first hand. Anyway, here's to another 4-8 years of the prevailing and accepted opinion that as a white male I should shut up and go fuck myself!

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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:30 am

I will be voting.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby the mean » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:54 am

SamDBL wrote:I am simply saying that I haven't seen it heard any overt racism from him.

Overt enough for you yet?
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:24 pm

the mean wrote:
SamDBL wrote:I am simply saying that I haven't seen it heard any overt racism from him.

Overt enough for you yet?


What are you talking about?
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby the mean » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:47 pm

SamDBL wrote:
the mean wrote:
SamDBL wrote:I am simply saying that I haven't seen it heard any overt racism from him.

Overt enough for you yet?

What are you talking about?

Do you still think Trump hasn't done anything overt enough to earn the label "racist"?
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:41 pm

the mean wrote:
SamDBL wrote:
the mean wrote:
SamDBL wrote:I am simply saying that I haven't seen it heard any overt racism from him.

Overt enough for you yet?

What are you talking about?

Do you still think Trump hasn't done anything overt enough to earn the label "racist"?


I do still think that. To interpret his weak condemnation of the riots without any other evidence of overt racism (plus the fact that his daughter and son in law that he has given the keys to the world to are Jewish) is justifiable. But it's also justifiable to add the fact that he can't be coarse with people that kiss his ass to a infinitely long list of character flaws the son of a bitch has. If David Duke would have said something negative about him, you would've seen the totally, take-it-personal-and-return-fire Trump that we are used to seeing. At least that's my interpretation of it. Again, being that I've seen no other true signs of racism and he has in his own family (that he appears to think very highly of), Jews, I see that latter option as the more logical assumption. Then again, I don't find walls at the Mexican border or Muslim country immigration freezes as inherently racist. Misguided or unrealistic, maybe. But not necessarily racist. I'm sure you disagree. That's fine. I am really not looking to make Trump not racist. He's plenty of terrible things. I think he sucks. I am just looking at the facts and trying to get to the most reasonable conclusion. I don't think he's racist. I think he's an egotistical, self-centered, incompetent dumb fuck. If someone were to show me irrefutable proof of his racism (as opposed to trying to read into his intentions), my reaction would be 'huh. well, there's that'. I don't give a shit. I'm am, however, offended that people call other people homophobic-sexist-racist-nazi-loving-bigots just because they can. Call it a pet peeve.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby fiestaware » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:36 am

SamDBL wrote:I'm am, however, offended that people call other people homophobic-sexist-racist-nazi-loving-bigots just because they can, than anything. Call it a pet peeve.


You can call it a peeve. I call that a defence mechanism.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:31 am

fiestaware wrote:
SamDBL wrote:I'm am, however, offended that people call other people homophobic-sexist-racist-nazi-loving-bigots just because they can, than anything. Call it a pet peeve.


You can call it a peeve. I call that a defence mechanism.


Against what? People having an opinion you disagree with? It's a horrible tactic. And turns centrists off by the droves. Its partially what put Trump in office, imo.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:20 pm



I quickly read the first article,as I'm in car line. There are, as expected, heavy handed accusations all over it. Things like referring to black people as 'the blacks' instead of African Americans may be culturally insensitive or boorish by today's standards. But to call it an act of racism by a person that has bigotry in their heart is way over the top, and exactly what annoys me. And it's why I asked in the first place. Because if that's all there is, forget it. The quote in the book about him using racial slurs: if he did, then I would say he's racist. It's a book done by someone whom I have no idea about their credibility one way or another. But that does stand up more than 'he's racist because he wants to build a wall', imo. I would say the legal suit is the most damning. But again, lawsuit claims have all sorts of motivations. Just because someones company is sued doesn't neccessarily reflect on the ceo's personal character. But I'm still fairly unfamiliar with it. Maybe I'll read up on it more if I'm super bored. Still, it's the most convincing thing I've seen to make the case of his possible racism. In any case, it makes much more sense to draw a conclusion from something like that, jump to irrational conclusions because you hate the man. Which is totally justifiable.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:08 pm



See, if that had been Donald trump instead of his father, I'd find it to be a much more compelling case that Donald trump is indeed racist. I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying that the waters have been muddied with the climate of non racist people being called racist for eating at Chinese restaurants, or whatever. I still say the slum lord court case is the strongest evidence I've seen. But I haven't examined it enough to make a conclusion. I guess because I don't give that much of a shit.

By contrast, I have no doubt that trump is a chuavanist (notice I didn't say misogynist). Why? Because there is actual audio of a conversation of him being that way. As well as much more easily verifiable witnesses of other incidents. Find me some audio of him calling arsenio hall a n--ger. I have actually heard there is audio from his showing just that. Don't give me a bunch of bullshit about referring to Mexicans as Mexicans as being signs of overt racism. Fuck off.

Also, I'm not sure if it's related... but I can't fucking believe how quiet Facebook is when a Muslim terrorist attack happens, now. Like, it's astounding.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby captain2man » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:33 pm

It's really hard to gauge where Trump stands in his heart. He might be a racist, he might not be. It's hard to tell because: (a) he's a complete asshole; and (b) he's stupid.

So....when someone's an asshole, they say things just to get a rise out of people, to get under their skin even if, in their hearts, they don't truly believe it. Trump can't even help himself. Even for the most mundane things, he HAS to say something that will get a rise out of someone. He barely ever refrains from that. So, is what he's saying in his heart?....or just something meant to get a rise out of someone? I don't know...because he's an asshole and that's what assholes do.

Secondly - he's stupid. He doesn't think about anything too deeply. He's never made me think for one second he could talk about any subject with any level of depth or complexity. Do you really think he could have explained the healthcare plan? Do you really think he could explain to you why he felt Gorsuch was a good choice for the Supreme Court? He doesn't care to know things....he doesn't care to be reflective or take the time to read something. Stupid people don't think things through....they don't consider the complexities of issues. They don't care to learn about the things they don't understand.

When you have a situation where someone is both stupid AND an asshole - trying to decipher what's in their heart of hearts is virtually impossible.

It's kind of what Tyrion said about Joffrey - where he said there have been insane rulers in the past, and stupid rulers in the past, but rarely has there been a ruler who is both insane AND stupid at the same time.

It's a dangerous combo.

But - I do think there's one telling thing about what's in his heart - and it was long before the election even happened. His comments about Judge Curiel when he was assigned to preside over the Trump University case.

The Trump University case had absolutely nothing to do with Trump's idiotic Wall proposal. It had to do with his fraudulent and scamming university. Trump directly stated that Curiel, a respected Judge and an American-born citizen, could not be impartial because of the proposed Wall and the fact that he was of Mexican descent.

Stating that another person cannot do their job for no other reason than of their heritage IS racism. The fact that Trump says it wasn't actually means he doesn't even understand what racism is. What he said in the first place is because he's an asshole. The fact that he didn't even realize it was a blatantly racist remark is because he's stupid.

The Curiel comments cannot be explained away - I'm sorry. That, combined with a growing heap of statements he has made over the years, is too big of a heap to ignore completely. Is he going to be Sieg Heiling and putting on a white robe? No - of course not. But in his heart, yeah - I don't think he sees people as equally at all. So many of his public comments, especially at women, are guided by appearance and looks. To think that he wouldn't also judge people of different races and heritages in that same way is really naive.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:12 pm

captain2man wrote:It's really hard to gauge where Trump stands in his heart. He might be a racist, he might not be. It's hard to tell because: (a) he's a complete asshole; and (b) he's stupid.


This basically my position.
And you are right.. I had forgotten about him calling out a judge as impartial because he was Mexican. There is no way around that not being a racist sentiment. It took this whole thread to come up with that example. I guess that was my point in initially asking about this. Is he racist because he calls black people 'the blacks' and Mexicans 'Mexicans'? Not necessarily. Is he racist because he proposed a wall at a border and a temporary freeze on Muslim immigrants? Not necessarily. Is he racist because he had a lawsuit against him saying as much? Not necessarily. Is he a racist because he didn't call out the VA protesters hard enough? Not necessarily. Like I said, I have no desire to defend the guy. I am more interested in how people define, or determine racism, on certain ends of the political spectrum. And I hear Hitler/Racist thrown out every time a non-Dem President is elected. I like to at least see people defend their accusations with a little bit of thought. You did that pretty well.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:13 am

SamDBL wrote:See, if that had been Donald trump instead of his father, I'd find it to be a much more compelling case that Donald trump is indeed racist.


Prejudice is taught. Therefore a relevant consideration in profiling.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:17 am

SamDBL wrote:I can't fucking believe how quiet Facebook is when a Muslim terrorist attack happens, now. Like, it's astounding.


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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:30 am

SamDBL wrote:[I still say the slum lord court case is the strongest evidence I've seen. But I haven't examined it enough to make a conclusion. I guess because I don't give that much of a shit.


Just enough of a shit to type paragraphs more than anyone else on the subject, demanding evidence to support these hysterical leftist spurious claims, all just to declare not-giving-a-shit status when people attempt to furnish you with some?
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:15 am

Welly wrote:
SamDBL wrote:[I still say the slum lord court case is the strongest evidence I've seen. But I haven't examined it enough to make a conclusion. I guess because I don't give that much of a shit.


Just enough of a shit to type paragraphs more than anyone else on the subject, demanding evidence to support these hysterical leftist spurious claims, all just to declare not-giving-a-shit status when people attempt to furnish you with some?


It was a pretty lousy attempt by all parties up until jeff's post, which actually had some validity. Like I said, I *do* give a shit when a bunch of dorks charge people with racism/hitlerism/fascism/sexism/homophobia/etc with little or no basis in reality. I don't care if trump specifically is or is not racist. I probably should've changed my original question to 'what is it, specifically, that makes *you* think Trump is a racist. That was my real interest. I thought I'd ask to see if I got a bunch of bullshit, grasping at straw answers. Guess what? I did. Now go fuck off.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:21 am

Welly wrote:
SamDBL wrote:I can't fucking believe how quiet Facebook is when a Muslim terrorist attack happens, now. Like, it's astounding.


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That picture *might* make sense if I were actually applying it to an argument. I just figured this pathetically resurrected thread would be a good time to mention that people are righteously slamming my FB feed for days with calls to violence against people for their views. But people actually getting killed by religious zealots on a fairly regular basis elicits no outrage at all. There must be a reason for that. Unrelated to trumps racism as it is, I'm venting here because this board seems to be filled with about the same ratio of people, politically, as those on my FB list. And I prefer to vent somewhere other than FB. Now fuck off and suck it.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:23 am

Welly wrote:Prejudice is taught.


Prove it, motherfucker.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:32 am

SamDBL wrote:Now go fuck off.


SamDBL wrote:Now fuck off and suck it.


SamDBL wrote:motherfucker.


This is one of those bait things to see if I'll bite right?

Y'know, the one where I lose it and go nuclear so you can come back all polite and intelligent with some cogent arguments?
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:52 am

Welly wrote:
SamDBL wrote:Now go fuck off.


SamDBL wrote:Now fuck off and suck it.


SamDBL wrote:motherfucker.


This is one of those bait things to see if I'll bite right?

Y'know, the one where I lose it and go nuclear so you can come back all polite and intelligent with some cogent arguments?


Do what, now?
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:58 am

Welly wrote:
Prejudice is taught. Therefore a relevant consideration in profiling.


I'm really stuck on this one, though. It sounds about as cool as people that swore up and down Obama was a secret Muslim taking it easy on extremists and giving out dog whistles. And his father being a Muslim being the nail in the coffin.

And the first statement is just, as far as I know, a mantra with not much basis. I know plenty of little kids that have said things that would be considered racist or racially insensitive in this day and age the first few times they see someone that looks different from them. Until they're, you know, taught that that is improper. I don't see how you could possibly even test what a kid would be like without any sort of guidelines, unless you did some totally unethical experiment where you locked them in a room at birth. And with ever-changing societal values, what's considered racially or culturally tolerable today could be considered the exact opposite in ten years (if the past is any indication). So it's just impossible to make that sort of statement, imo.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:14 am

SamDBL wrote:
Welly wrote:
Prejudice is taught. Therefore a relevant consideration in profiling.


I'm really stuck on this one, though. It sounds about as cool as people that swore up and down Obama was a secret Muslim giving out dog whistles. And his father being a Muslim was the nail in the coffin.


Nope. There you go with those straw men again.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby SamDBL » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:03 am

Welly wrote:Nope. There you go with those straw men again.



SamDBL wrote:Prove it, motherfucker.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby Welly » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:56 pm

Well you only need to read your own posts to see that they accurately reflect one of America's main problems right now.

That even the self-evident cannot be 'proven' to the willfully ignorant.
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Re: Trump Rally..

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:27 pm

Boston's counter-protesters came out by the thousands today. White Nationalists were a no show.

Rachel Maddow pointed out on her show rather well that; White Supremacist groups not wearing masks or hoods are setting themselves up for a difficult life ahead. Smartphones capture faces, social media IDs people, spreads across the web quickly and unforgivingly. Jobs lost, schools denied, families disowned, web sites banned. The fascist organizers may have had a stroke of genius though. They could have pledges for life.

Either way. Maybe the White Nationalists got the message and that's the reason they skipped out on Boston. Along with the thousands of counter protesters too, that is.

Bravo brothers and sisters in Boston!

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