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Best Pink Floyd record, period. Nerds will always rep some bullshit Syd Barrett record, but save that shit for the circus. People who claim that The Final Cut sounds too much like a Waters solo record haven't really listened to either.

i like some of it, but i wish it had more drums.

I thought it was the height of smart, sophisticated rock music when I was 14. Now I think it has precious little to do with rock music at all.

Who gives a fuck about rock music?

version sound wrote:Best Pink Floyd record, period. Nerds will always rep some bullshit Syd Barrett record, but save that shit for the circus. People who claim that The Final Cut sounds too much like a Waters solo record haven't really listened to either.

Yup.

Dark Side of the Moon is leaps and bounds better than any other Pink Floyd record. Saying The Final Cut is their best is like saying Nebraksa is the best Springsteen album.



Please don't make me play the Sandinista! card.

scannest wrote: Nebraksa is the best Springsteen album.

Word.

scannest wrote:Dark Side of the Moon is leaps and bounds better than any other Pink Floyd record. Saying The Final Cut is their best is like saying Nebraksa is the best Springsteen album.



Please don't make me play the Sandinista! card.

You'll have to resort to Sandinista! cuz I don't listen to Springsteen. For the record, if you're going to invoke Sandinista!, the proper analogy is that The Wall is to Sandinista! as The Final Cut is to Combat Rock. DSOTM is London Calling in that analogy.

version sound wrote:DSOTM is London Calling in that analogy.

In the sense that they are both rare occasions where a band's commercial peak coincides with their artistic peak, then sure.

Actually, perhaps Combat Rock is the bigger commercial hit than London Calling? I'm not sure. If so, it blows your analogy out of the water.

Over the test of time, London Calling has sold more units, though Combat Rock was a much bigger "hit" upon release. It went top ten in the US. "Train in Vain" was the "biggest hit" off London Callling, but both "Rock the Casbah" and "SISOSIG" were both much "bigger hits". "SISOSIG" went to #1 in the UK when it was re-released in the early 90's.

So in final, It depends on your preference, tortoises or hares?

The analogy is based on The Final Cut being a more concise version of the themes and styles explored on The Wall. Who cares about commercial peaks?

version sound wrote:Who cares about commercial peaks?

I don't care about any of this stuff. I'm just killing time, waiting for a conference call to end.

version sound wrote:The analogy is based on The Final Cut being a more concise version of the themes and styles explored on The Wall. Who cares about commercial peaks?

You may have known that in your pretty little head, but I don't see anything explaining your thoughts until just now. I made a safe assumption.

These Pink Floyd threads are lively.

version sound wrote:

scannest wrote:Dark Side of the Moon is leaps and bounds better than any other Pink Floyd record. Saying The Final Cut is their best is like saying Nebraksa is the best Springsteen album.



Please don't make me play the Sandinista! card.

You'll have to resort to Sandinista! cuz I don't listen to Springsteen. For the record, if you're going to invoke Sandinista!, the proper analogy is that The Wall is to Sandinista! as The Final Cut is to Combat Rock. DSOTM is London Calling in that analogy.

You are all wrong.

Darkness on the Edge of Townn, not Nebraska, is by far Springsteen's best album and honestly the only one I can listen to from start to finish.

While I wouldn't argue that it's their best, Sandinista! is The Clash release I go back to most often. Combat Rock is great and underrated, too, at least for the most part.

Oh and back to the topic at hand, Syd Barrett-era Pink Floyd has precious little to do with the band they became after he left and especially from Dark Side of the Moon forward, though his influence lingers on much of their catalog, especially Wish You Were Here.

I can (and will) argue that Syd Barrett is far, far more influential on modern music (at least the kinds I like) of all sorts than the later, arena rock Pink Floyd has been, but truthfully aside from their 1st Lp and assorted singles (on Relics), all of which I enjoy but am not nuts about, I have never been able to get into his solo records.

Oh and The Final Cut blows.

Maybe I need to take over from pedro to teach you all stuff.

You ate a bowl of crack for breakfast and/or have never really listened to The Final Cut. Saying that anything that well-conceived and produced "blows" is just fucking ridiculous.

version sound wrote:You ate a bowl of crack for breakfast and/or have never really listened to The Final Cut. Saying that anything that well-conceived and produced "blows" is just fucking ridiculous.

I was just trying to get your goat with that statement, honestly, and it looked like it worked. I tried to get into it years ago and even had it on vinyl, but I just found it overbearing, hectoring and just well a bit much honestly. I get that it's an anti-war statement and I like its meaning, just not its execution.

I don't really give a shit about the themes, though I think they are well done, I just love the music.

Also, as far as psychedelia goes, 13th Floor Elevators >>>>>>>>>>> early Pink Floyd.

version sound wrote:Also, as far as psychedelia goes, 13th Floor Elevators >>>>>>>>>>> early Pink Floyd.

I definitely like the Elevators more, but don't know if I'd go that far. There's some great early Pink Floyd stuff, too.

Not my fave Floyd album, but for sure a truly underrated one...

Definitely up there, for me. I probably like the first one better. I might put Final Cut right after that.