I bought this on Saturday so I could listen to it while wandering around Boulder. I had heard a lot of the songs on rock radio over the last 34 years but had never listened to the album all the way through. I'm still trying to figure out if I like it or not. Sometimes I think Pink Floyd started running a click track in 1972 and have been playing along to it ever since.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:18 am
by gregpolard
You're in CO? My friend lives out there in Boulder...loves it.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:27 am
by xxxHunterxxx
gregpolard wrote:You're in CO? My friend lives out there in Boulder...loves it.
I was only there for the weekend. It's a beautiful place but there's something seedy about it -- lotsa junkies and able-bodied twenty-somethings panhandling.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:36 am
by version sound
I like The Wall, but prefer The Final Cut, which is basically all the same themes condensed down to one record. My favorite Wall era track, "When the Tigers Broke Free", isn't even on the damn record.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:38 am
by JGJR
version sound wrote:I like The Wall, but prefer The Final Cut, which is basically all the same themes condensed down to one record. My favorite Wall era track, "The Day the Tigers Broke Free", isn't even on the damn record.
I like Pink Floyd up to and including Animals, but have never been able to get into the last two albums they did with Roger Waters because they are more like RW solo records.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:45 am
by yourenotevil
the wall is a pretty awesome record, but unfortunately, like dark side, it has been hacked to death into singles by FM radio since it came out. i would prolly rather watch the film over listening to the record these days.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:14 am
by gregpolard
I don't like Pink Floyd really. I've tried. I don't mind them but...I don't see ever wanting to listen to them willingly.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:37 am
by scannest
Most overrated of what I'd call the "first-tier" classic rock radio bands. Like the Grateful Dead, I am confident I have given them more than enough of a shot to safely say I do not get their popularity. A handful of terrific songs over a 20 year recording career does not make a great band. I was 12 when The Wall came out and should have been exactly the right age to love it, but it always struck me as silly, bombastic and boring. Radio playing the handful of decent tunes to death ("Run Like Hell", "Comfortably Numb") hasn't helped.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:57 am
by version sound
scannest wrote:Most overrated of what I'd call the "first-tier" classic rock radio bands. Like the Grateful Dead, I am confident I have given them more than enough of a shot to safely say I do not get their popularity. A handful of terrific songs over a 20 year recording career does not make a great band. I was 12 when The Wall came out and should have been exactly the right age to love it, but it always struck me as silly, bombastic and boring. Radio playing the handful of decent tunes to death ("Run Like Hell", "Comfortably Numb") hasn't helped.
This is pretty much how I feel about The Who. To each their own.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:19 am
by gregpolard
Sal hit the nail on the head. Honestly (though I'd still be willing to give the catalog a chance...moreso than Pink Floyd) I kinda feel this way about Led Zep too. They have some awesome songs but as a whole it doesn't really do much for me.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:27 am
by FormerLurker
Works best as a single unit. Loved it as a 15 y/o, still kinda dig it.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:02 am
by jaybird
Got it for my 11th Birthday in 1980. Still have it, loved it then, love it now. When I was in high school and college, one of our regular past-times was smoking lots of pot and going to see either The Wall or Heavy Metal at the local multiplex midnight show. It was a great era.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:09 am
by Knutsen
Somebody wrote, if you are clever switching radio stations, you can make it across the US by car only listening to Pink Floyd.
Listened to them a lot while tripping in the 80s. Saw them live once in 1985 and it was really good.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:11 am
by tango fistula
Heres some heresy...
Never owned it.
Never will.
I "get" why people adore them...I have bands like that too. Its always good to be passionate about your likes and dislikes...
I suffered the overexposure as a teen and have been poisoned ever since. Same with the Zep.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:46 pm
by scannest
version sound wrote:This is pretty much how I feel about The Who. To each their own.
Not shocking. You've shown a preference for atmospherics and mood over actual songcraft.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:13 pm
by version sound
scannest wrote:
version sound wrote:This is pretty much how I feel about The Who. To each their own.
Not shocking. You've shown a preference for atmospherics and mood over actual songcraft.
Pffft. The Beatles, Brian Wilson, and Big Star knew about songcraft. The Who hit on something in roughly one out of every four songs.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:21 pm
by tango fistula
The Who wrote great singles...and when Townsend decided to be an meaningful important songwriter he had more productivity but less quality.
I guess I'm saying I don't like"Tommy" or "Next"...more overexposure as a young teen.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:58 pm
by xxxHunterxxx
Led Zeppelin are the worst band of all time. I recently realized I really like The Who. They just should've packed it in in about 1968.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:08 pm
by pedro
Many of you people, basically everyone except scanny, need to have lunch with me so I can explain rock music to you. Y'all can pick up the tab. Really, It's a small price to pay.
PM me for availability.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:12 pm
by tango fistula
OOOHHHH a symposium on Classic Rock!!!???!!!
Sign me up!
If I don't fall in love with Foghat do I get my money back?
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:13 pm
by tango fistula
OH I forgot...
Fuck Led Zeppelin and the stolen horse they rode in on sidesaddle
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:32 pm
by xxxHunterxxx
pedro wrote:Many of you people, basically everyone except scanny, need to have lunch with me so I can explain rock music to you. Y'all can pick up the tab. Really, It's a small price to pay.
PM me for availability.
Perhaps you and Scanny can get together for dinner to discuss your mutual love of the Goo Goo Dolls.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:14 pm
by yourenotevil
you guy are fucking nuts, led zep are fucking awesome. the who are great, but i think they have a lot of filler.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:25 pm
by version sound
yourenotevil wrote:you guy are fucking nuts, led zep are fucking awesome.
Damn skippy.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:01 pm
by tango fistula
yourenotevil wrote:you guy are fucking nuts, led zep are fucking awesome
Ehh...
And I've revisited several times since the 70's..
I like the rhythm section and thats about it.
I still cant get thru a whole song...once the vocals kick in I'm gone.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:50 pm
by version sound
It blows my mind that people don't like Plant's singing. He probably had the best voice in classic rock.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:52 pm
by WrEtcH
watching the movie before "getting" PINK FLYOD was a bad idea.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:57 pm
by tango fistula
version sound wrote:It blows my mind that people don't like Plant's singing. He probably had the best voice in classic rock.
My vote would go to Steve Marriot
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:01 pm
by version sound
I prefer Faces to Small Faces. I don't know if I've ever heard Humble Pie.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:17 pm
by tango fistula
Humble Pie is pretty crap...good voice notwithstanding.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:53 pm
by jaybird
I prefer all the weird, late-period Zep stuff over the first four records... I always thought it'd be cool for a band like ALL or Nomeansno to cover this tune:
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:51 pm
by JGJR
version sound wrote:
yourenotevil wrote:you guy are fucking nuts, led zep are fucking awesome.
Damn skippy.
I'm with VS.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:04 pm
by yourenotevil
version sound wrote:It blows my mind that people don't like Plant's singing. He probably had the best voice in classic rock.
actually, i think this is the one thing i could understand people not liking about them. he did have a great voice, but his lyrics were whack and all about love and sex. not like i am looking for deepness in led zep lyrics, but compared to pink floyd, the who and their peers this was their weakest attribute.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:25 am
by gregpolard
I like bands that rip off Led Zep more than I like Led Zep.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:35 am
by yourenotevil
gregpolard wrote:I like bands that rip off Led Zep more than I like Led Zep.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:11 am
by pedro
tango fistula wrote:OOOHHHH a symposium on Classic Rock!!!???!!!
Sign me up!
If I don't fall in love with Foghat do I get my money back?
Judging from some of the recent posts on the board, my symposium will encompass all rock music. I am not limited to a single micro-genre like classic rock. Who do you think I am? Mayor Bloomberg?
version sound wrote:It blows my mind that people don't like Plant's singing. He probably had the best voice in classic rock.
Do you like the sound of finger nails scraping across a chalkboard?
JGJR wrote:I'm with VS.
Point, the rest of us.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:Perhaps you and Scanny can get together for dinner to discuss your mutual love of the Goo Goo Dolls.
I have heard one album out of ten*. The album with a completely different sound, singer and drummer. When I saw them at the Rat, they were the first band on a four band bill headlined by Gang Green. I had never heard of them when I walked into the place. That album was pretty good (if I recall correctly, Al at Suburban Voice gave it album of the year) but it didn't carry me far enough to get to the second album.
In other words, it would be a very short conversation.
* Yes, I looked it up on wikipedia.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:18 am
by version sound
gregpolard wrote:I like bands that rip off Led Zep more than I like Led Zep.
So, you're a big Kingdom Come, Whitesnake, and Billy Squire fan?
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:25 am
by version sound
pedro wrote:Many of you people, basically everyone except scanny, need to have lunch with me so I can explain rock music to you. Y'all can pick up the tab. Really, It's a small price to pay.
PM me for availability.
I'll wait for a class conducted by someone who has actually listened to rock music in the last 20 years.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:25 am
by xxxHunterxxx
pedro wrote:
xxxHunterxxx wrote:Perhaps you and Scanny can get together for dinner to discuss your mutual love of the Goo Goo Dolls.
I have heard one album[.]. I [] gave it album of the year[.] .
I rest my case.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:27 am
by gregpolard
version sound wrote:
gregpolard wrote:I like bands that rip off Led Zep more than I like Led Zep.
So, you're a big Kingdom Come, Whitesnake, and Billy Squire fan?
Was thinking more along the lines of Nirvana and stuff....the riffs.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:28 am
by gregpolard
yourenotevil wrote:
gregpolard wrote:I like bands that rip off Led Zep more than I like Led Zep.
Can't see Youtube at work. What is it?
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:33 am
by pedro
version sound wrote:I'll wait for a class conducted by someone who has actually listened to rock music in the last 20 years.
I have diagnosed your problem already.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:36 am
by version sound
pedro wrote:
version sound wrote:I'll wait for a class conducted by someone who has actually listened to rock music in the last 20 years.
I have diagnosed your problem already.
Priapism is a condition, not a problem, thank you very much.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:41 am
by pedro
version sound wrote:Priapism is a condition, not a problem, thank you very much.
If it lasts more than eight hours, you should definitely call a doctor.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:06 am
by tango fistula
This thread could fly off the rails at any moment...so yeah it has possibilities.
As far as bands that ape the Zep...Heart and Soundgarden are the main culprits.
As far as how many blues artists had their material.."borrowed" by Jimmy Page and the guy next to him who yelps babybabybabybaby oooooooohhhoooobaby...well..that list is a long one.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:39 am
by crus
I'd say Soundgarden aped Sabbath more than Zep then headed in a Pink Floyd direction.
The Cult are far more guilty of Zep aping.
I used to own The Wall(maybe still do as it was a cassette)....I played The Final Cut more. Ty Cobb = Not Now John
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:43 am
by scannest
tango fistula wrote:As far as how many blues artists had their material.."borrowed" by Jimmy Page and the guy next to him who yelps babybabybabybaby oooooooohhhoooobaby...well..that list is a long one.
While I feel for their monetary loss, I would rather listen to Led Zeppelin than any one of the dozens of original blooze artists they ripped off. I can pay lip service all day to people like Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, etc. but I rarely, if everm want to listen to them. I know, it's a character flaw on my part.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:51 am
by JGJR
crus wrote:Ty Cobb = Not Now John
Please explain this.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:52 am
by tango fistula
Nah...its just personal tastes.
I LOVE LOVE Howlin Wolf, Lightning Hopkins, Muddy ect ect the same way I love Hank Sr, Lefty Frizzell, Buck, George Jones ect...for me those semianl artists hit a raw deep nerve that modern music is incapable of touching.
BUT
I have to be in that mood...mostly I want to hear stupid fun loud rock music.
Re: Pink Floyd "The Wall"
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:53 am
by JGJR
scannest wrote:
tango fistula wrote:As far as how many blues artists had their material.."borrowed" by Jimmy Page and the guy next to him who yelps babybabybabybaby oooooooohhhoooobaby...well..that list is a long one.
While I feel for their monetary loss, I would rather listen to Led Zeppelin than any one of the dozens of original blooze artists they ripped off. I can pay lip service all day to people like Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, etc. but I rarely, if everm want to listen to them. I know, it's a character flaw on my part.
I'd say I like the others you mentioned, but if I'm being completely honest, Howlin' Wolf is the only blues artist that I listen to on a semi-regular basis. I love Beefheart, but he felt a lot less original to me (at least vocally) once I heard Howlin' Wolf and it's nice to know the source of some of Zep's early material, too.
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:17 am