Stormy Was Right

Stormy Was Right

Postby version sound » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:42 pm

Well, partially. Listening to the Hot Bodi Gram material at the reunion convinced me that it's NOT hardcore. And no, King Face never was. Most of the other DC bands of the period I'd still consider hardcore, though, except for the bands that weren't.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:24 pm

Hot Bodi Gram is in the top 3 Dischord albums ever released.

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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby yourenotevil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:39 am

most dischord records from 86 to 89: hc in spirit, boring rock and roll that did not age well in reality.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby version sound » Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:40 am

yourenotevil wrote:most dischord records from 86 to 89: hc in spirit, boring rock and roll that did not age well in reality.


That's totally bonkers. The only record that really falls into that category is Fidelity Jones.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby yourenotevil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:59 am

version sound wrote:
yourenotevil wrote:most dischord records from 86 to 89: hc in spirit, boring rock and roll that did not age well in reality.


That's totally bonkers. The only record that really falls into that category is Fidelity Jones.



not really. i may be being a bit harsh. they were still releasing good stuff in 86, but you can see the drop off came pretty quickly. by the early 90s, this label was churning out mostly garbage. here is a quick once over:

1985 15 Minor Threat Salad Days
15½ Scream This Side Up Rough Trade Records
15¾ Reptile House I Stumble as the Crow Flies
16 Rites of Spring Rites of Spring
17 Beefeater Plays for Lovers
1986 17½ Mission Impossible /
Lünchmeat Thanks / Getting Shit for Growing up Different Sammich Records
18 The Snakes I Won't Love You 'til You're More Like Me Discard Records
19 Dag Nasty Can I Say
20 Egg Hunt Me and You
21 Gray Matter Take it Back
1987 22 Rites of Spring All Through a Life
1986 22½ Soul Side Less Deep Inside Keeps Sammich Records
1987 23 Beefeater House Burning Down
24 Embrace Embrace
25 Scream Banging the Drum
26 Dag Nasty Wig Out at Denko's
26½ Ignition Anger Means / Proven Hollow Ig Records
1988 26¾ Shudder to Think It Was Arson Sammich Records
27 Minor Threat Live
28 Fire Party Fire Party
29 Soul Side Trigger Sammich Records
30 Fugazi Fugazi
31 Ignition Machination Ig Records
1989 32 Various artists State of the Union
33 Three Dark Days Coming
1990 33⅓ Vile Cherubs Post Humorous Relief Cherubic Delusions
1989 33⅔ Holy Rollers Origami Sessions Adult Swim Records
34 Soul Side Soul Side
35 Fugazi Margin Walker
36 13 Songs
37 Fire Party New Orleans Opera
38 Soul Side Hot Bodi-Gram
1990 39 Ignition Orafying Mysticle
40 Minor Threat Complete Discography


how many of these records do you bust on a daily basis? i really like ignition but the earliest records are the best ones. dag nasty got boring really quickly. soulside-the first lp was the best record. i like trigger, bass and some of hot bodi gram, but there was also a lot of filler in those records. does anyone(or did anyone ever) listen to fire party, the snakes or the holy rollers? i used to like the three record, but it has aged badly.


compared to the first six years of dischord, this stuff is just not as good. compare this to almost any other punk scene in the world in 86 to 90, and there is no contest. NYC and UK/earache blow this shit out of the water. any record swiz put out beats any of these dischord records in my book.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby 77clash » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:16 am

I am down with this list. The rest of it I could do without.

1985 15 Minor Threat Salad Days
15½ Scream This Side Up Rough Trade Records
16 Rites of Spring Rites of Spring
19 Dag Nasty Can I Say
20 Egg Hunt Me and You
1987 22 Rites of Spring All Through a Life
24 Embrace Embrace
25 Scream Banging the Drum
26 Dag Nasty Wig Out at Denko's
27 Minor Threat Live
30 Fugazi Fugazi
35 Fugazi Margin Walker
36 13 Songs
40 Minor Threat Complete Discography
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby yourenotevil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:41 am

77clash wrote:I am down with this list. The rest of it I could do without.

1985 15 Minor Threat Salad Days
15½ Scream This Side Up Rough Trade Records
16 Rites of Spring Rites of Spring
19 Dag Nasty Can I Say
20 Egg Hunt Me and You
1987 22 Rites of Spring All Through a Life
24 Embrace Embrace
25 Scream Banging the Drum
26 Dag Nasty Wig Out at Denko's
27 Minor Threat Live
30 Fugazi Fugazi
35 Fugazi Margin Walker
36 13 Songs
40 Minor Threat Complete Discography



there's good stuff, but comparison to 80-86 is not possible. i would throw out the MT discog as well since that was all released before.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby JGJR » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:59 am

To be honest, I love Minor Threat, The Faith and Void (Scream, too, but they kind of encompassed both eras) but could take or leave most of the rest of the pre-Revolution Summer Dischord catalog (I like it to varying degrees, but am not crazy about any of it like a lot of you are). My favorite Dischord stuff/era is Rites of Spring, Embrace, Gray Matter, Dag Nasty, Ignition, Soulside and later Shudder to Think, Jawbox, Fugazi, et al. I play that stuff a lot more and it speaks to me more as an almost 40 year old than the earlier stuff does. Sorry, but it's true. I'm not saying I like everything from that era, BTW. I never got into Fire Party or Kingface, for example. But overall, I prefer the more melodic stuff.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby The Snake » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:04 am

While I love some Dischord bands from 85 - 90 period (mostly Embrace, Dag Nasty and Ignition), I listen more the early stuff, especially The First Four Years CD.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby JGJR » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:05 am

version sound wrote:Well, partially. Listening to the Hot Bodi Gram material at the reunion convinced me that it's NOT hardcore. And no, King Face never was. Most of the other DC bands of the period I'd still consider hardcore, though, except for the bands that weren't.


The real question is why does it even matter?
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby matt » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:07 am

JGJR wrote:
version sound wrote:Well, partially. Listening to the Hot Bodi Gram material at the reunion convinced me that it's NOT hardcore. And no, King Face never was. Most of the other DC bands of the period I'd still consider hardcore, though, except for the bands that weren't.


The real question is why does it even matter?


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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby yourenotevil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:10 am

matt wrote:
JGJR wrote:
version sound wrote:Well, partially. Listening to the Hot Bodi Gram material at the reunion convinced me that it's NOT hardcore. And no, King Face never was. Most of the other DC bands of the period I'd still consider hardcore, though, except for the bands that weren't.


The real question is why does it even matter?


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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby drew » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:26 am

yourenotevil wrote:
version sound wrote:
yourenotevil wrote:most dischord records from 86 to 89: hc in spirit, boring rock and roll that did not age well in reality.


That's totally bonkers. The only record that really falls into that category is Fidelity Jones.



not really. i may be being a bit harsh. they were still releasing good stuff in 86, but you can see the drop off came pretty quickly. by the early 90s, this label was churning out mostly garbage. here is a quick once over:

1985 15 Minor Threat Salad Days
15½ Scream This Side Up Rough Trade Records
15¾ Reptile House I Stumble as the Crow Flies
16 Rites of Spring Rites of Spring
17 Beefeater Plays for Lovers
1986 17½ Mission Impossible /
Lünchmeat Thanks / Getting Shit for Growing up Different Sammich Records
18 The Snakes I Won't Love You 'til You're More Like Me Discard Records
19 Dag Nasty Can I Say
20 Egg Hunt Me and You
21 Gray Matter Take it Back
1987 22 Rites of Spring All Through a Life
1986 22½ Soul Side Less Deep Inside Keeps Sammich Records
1987 23 Beefeater House Burning Down
24 Embrace Embrace
25 Scream Banging the Drum
26 Dag Nasty Wig Out at Denko's
26½ Ignition Anger Means / Proven Hollow Ig Records
1988 26¾ Shudder to Think It Was Arson Sammich Records
27 Minor Threat Live
28 Fire Party Fire Party
29 Soul Side Trigger Sammich Records
30 Fugazi Fugazi
31 Ignition Machination Ig Records
1989 32 Various artists State of the Union
33 Three Dark Days Coming
1990 33⅓ Vile Cherubs Post Humorous Relief Cherubic Delusions
1989 33⅔ Holy Rollers Origami Sessions Adult Swim Records
34 Soul Side Soul Side
35 Fugazi Margin Walker
36 13 Songs
37 Fire Party New Orleans Opera
38 Soul Side Hot Bodi-Gram
1990 39 Ignition Orafying Mysticle
40 Minor Threat Complete Discography


how many of these records do you bust on a daily basis? i really like ignition but the earliest records are the best ones. dag nasty got boring really quickly. soulside-the first lp was the best record. i like trigger, bass and some of hot bodi gram, but there was also a lot of filler in those records. does anyone(or did anyone ever) listen to fire party, the snakes or the holy rollers? i used to like the three record, but it has aged badly.


compared to the first six years of dischord, this stuff is just not as good. compare this to almost any other punk scene in the world in 86 to 90, and there is no contest. NYC and UK/earache blow this shit out of the water. any record swiz put out beats any of these dischord records in my book.





Most labels would be honored to have a roster of bands/releases like that. That is an amazing list of records and I listen to most of them regulary.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby version sound » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:30 am

JGJR wrote:
version sound wrote:Well, partially. Listening to the Hot Bodi Gram material at the reunion convinced me that it's NOT hardcore. And no, King Face never was. Most of the other DC bands of the period I'd still consider hardcore, though, except for the bands that weren't.


The real question is why does it even matter?


Because several people got their panties in a twist when DC bands of that era were called hardcore.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby yourenotevil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:46 am

drew wrote:
yourenotevil wrote:
version sound wrote:
yourenotevil wrote:most dischord records from 86 to 89: hc in spirit, boring rock and roll that did not age well in reality.


That's totally bonkers. The only record that really falls into that category is Fidelity Jones.



not really. i may be being a bit harsh. they were still releasing good stuff in 86, but you can see the drop off came pretty quickly. by the early 90s, this label was churning out mostly garbage. here is a quick once over:

1985 15 Minor Threat Salad Days
15½ Scream This Side Up Rough Trade Records
15¾ Reptile House I Stumble as the Crow Flies
16 Rites of Spring Rites of Spring
17 Beefeater Plays for Lovers
1986 17½ Mission Impossible /
Lünchmeat Thanks / Getting Shit for Growing up Different Sammich Records
18 The Snakes I Won't Love You 'til You're More Like Me Discard Records
19 Dag Nasty Can I Say
20 Egg Hunt Me and You
21 Gray Matter Take it Back
1987 22 Rites of Spring All Through a Life
1986 22½ Soul Side Less Deep Inside Keeps Sammich Records
1987 23 Beefeater House Burning Down
24 Embrace Embrace
25 Scream Banging the Drum
26 Dag Nasty Wig Out at Denko's
26½ Ignition Anger Means / Proven Hollow Ig Records
1988 26¾ Shudder to Think It Was Arson Sammich Records
27 Minor Threat Live
28 Fire Party Fire Party
29 Soul Side Trigger Sammich Records
30 Fugazi Fugazi
31 Ignition Machination Ig Records
1989 32 Various artists State of the Union
33 Three Dark Days Coming
1990 33⅓ Vile Cherubs Post Humorous Relief Cherubic Delusions
1989 33⅔ Holy Rollers Origami Sessions Adult Swim Records
34 Soul Side Soul Side
35 Fugazi Margin Walker
36 13 Songs
37 Fire Party New Orleans Opera
38 Soul Side Hot Bodi-Gram
1990 39 Ignition Orafying Mysticle
40 Minor Threat Complete Discography


how many of these records do you bust on a daily basis? i really like ignition but the earliest records are the best ones. dag nasty got boring really quickly. soulside-the first lp was the best record. i like trigger, bass and some of hot bodi gram, but there was also a lot of filler in those records. does anyone(or did anyone ever) listen to fire party, the snakes or the holy rollers? i used to like the three record, but it has aged badly.


compared to the first six years of dischord, this stuff is just not as good. compare this to almost any other punk scene in the world in 86 to 90, and there is no contest. NYC and UK/earache blow this shit out of the water. any record swiz put out beats any of these dischord records in my book.





Most labels would be honored to have a roster of bands/releases like that. That is an amazing list of records and I listen to most of them regulary.



how many from 87 to 89 though?
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby version sound » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:02 am

Hardcore was pretty shit in that era (and every era) compared to '80-'84. DC was the best thing going by a wide margin.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby lewdd » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:07 am

version sound wrote:Hardcore was pretty shit in that era (and every era) compared to '80-'84. DC was the best thing going by a wide margin.


What genre would you classify the Bad Religion releases from 88-90?
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby yourenotevil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:17 am

version sound wrote:Hardcore was pretty shit in that era (and every era) compared to '80-'84. DC was the best thing going by a wide margin.



i disagree, there were lots of good hc scenes, just nothing people on this board(except like 3 other ppl) care about.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby xxxHunterxxx » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:25 am

I love most of the records on that list. I don't listen to them all that often now but when I do, I'm immediately transported back to my teenage years.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby version sound » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:34 am

yourenotevil wrote:
version sound wrote:Hardcore was pretty shit in that era (and every era) compared to '80-'84. DC was the best thing going by a wide margin.



i disagree, there were lots of good hc scenes, just nothing people on this board(except like 3 other ppl) care about.


Can't argue with that. I liked the comp Stormy made, but didn't have much interest in that stuff at the time. I still regularly listen to most of the DC records you listed that were released before 1990.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby Gary » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:36 am

A lot of good records on that list. For me it's just too different to compare to what came before. Listening to them serves a different purpose to my ears.
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Re: Stormy Was Right

Postby xxxMidgexxx » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:10 am

drew wrote:
yourenotevil wrote:
version sound wrote:
yourenotevil wrote:most dischord records from 86 to 89: hc in spirit, boring rock and roll that did not age well in reality.


That's totally bonkers. The only record that really falls into that category is Fidelity Jones.



not really. i may be being a bit harsh. they were still releasing good stuff in 86, but you can see the drop off came pretty quickly. by the early 90s, this label was churning out mostly garbage. here is a quick once over:

1985 15 Minor Threat Salad Days
15½ Scream This Side Up Rough Trade Records
15¾ Reptile House I Stumble as the Crow Flies
16 Rites of Spring Rites of Spring
17 Beefeater Plays for Lovers
1986 17½ Mission Impossible /
Lünchmeat Thanks / Getting Shit for Growing up Different Sammich Records
18 The Snakes I Won't Love You 'til You're More Like Me Discard Records
19 Dag Nasty Can I Say
20 Egg Hunt Me and You
21 Gray Matter Take it Back
1987 22 Rites of Spring All Through a Life
1986 22½ Soul Side Less Deep Inside Keeps Sammich Records
1987 23 Beefeater House Burning Down
24 Embrace Embrace
25 Scream Banging the Drum
26 Dag Nasty Wig Out at Denko's
26½ Ignition Anger Means / Proven Hollow Ig Records
1988 26¾ Shudder to Think It Was Arson Sammich Records
27 Minor Threat Live
28 Fire Party Fire Party
29 Soul Side Trigger Sammich Records
30 Fugazi Fugazi
31 Ignition Machination Ig Records
1989 32 Various artists State of the Union
33 Three Dark Days Coming
1990 33⅓ Vile Cherubs Post Humorous Relief Cherubic Delusions
1989 33⅔ Holy Rollers Origami Sessions Adult Swim Records
34 Soul Side Soul Side
35 Fugazi Margin Walker
36 13 Songs
37 Fire Party New Orleans Opera
38 Soul Side Hot Bodi-Gram
1990 39 Ignition Orafying Mysticle
40 Minor Threat Complete Discography


how many of these records do you bust on a daily basis? i really like ignition but the earliest records are the best ones. dag nasty got boring really quickly. soulside-the first lp was the best record. i like trigger, bass and some of hot bodi gram, but there was also a lot of filler in those records. does anyone(or did anyone ever) listen to fire party, the snakes or the holy rollers? i used to like the three record, but it has aged badly.


compared to the first six years of dischord, this stuff is just not as good. compare this to almost any other punk scene in the world in 86 to 90, and there is no contest. NYC and UK/earache blow this shit out of the water. any record swiz put out beats any of these dischord records in my book.



Most labels would be honored to have a roster of bands/releases like that. That is an amazing list of records and I listen to most of them regulary.



Yep, this. Not a ROS fan, but pretty much love everything on Dischord up to around when Smart Went Crazy and Branch Manager came out.
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