xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
The Snake wrote:Even if it is from some old website that is not functioning anymore and even if there is no credit anywhere?
MXV wrote:The Snake wrote:Even if it is from some old website that is not functioning anymore and even if there is no credit anywhere?
I can't tell if you are trolling me or just that clueless to copyright law. Google that shit but the short and long answer is yes!
MXV wrote:JGJR if you knew a rapist would you be conflicted about how you feel about the issue because you know him? Tell your buddy to email me at punkvault AT gmail DOT com and pay me my fee and apologize for his crime.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
MXV wrote:Maybe the rape analogy was harsh
the mean wrote:MXV wrote:Maybe the rape analogy was harsh
If by "harsh" you mean "wildly inappropriate and shitty," then, yeah.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Welly wrote:MXV wrote:Update:
Despite how some of you feel that I shouldn't be paid for my work and that photo credit should be good enough (really? well then you should all be doing whatever various jobs you have for free too then and just be paid with a "thank you"), the main dude behind Brooklyn Vegan sent me a very nice apology letter and paypaled me my licensing fee. I thought his letter was very classy and heartfelt and I applaud him for respecting what I do and doing the right thing.
Lars? Seriously? Maybe the rape analogy was harsh but if someone stole your wallet and then used the cash in it to buy something, would it make it ok if he did that as long as he told people he bought the item with your money? Just because I was raised by punk rock doesn't mean I shouldn't be paid for my craft and that laws governing copyright and intellectual property don't exist.
I'm really disappointed with those of you who somehow think that someone stealing a photographer's work and using it without permission is fine as long as they gave you credit for it. You are all part of the problem and contribute to the devaluation of our (photographers) craft.
Hey man, when you've finished salving that sore arse maybe you'll be able to see beyond the toys you threw out of your pram that are obscuring your view of your monitor, and see that all I was saying that there are different ways of approaching these things. Personally, I'd have just let it slide, but that's just me. We're all different. That was my post. I was just throwing an alternative view out there.
I'm glad you got paid, and agree with you about your work, although I disagree with your methods. It was fairly obvious from your post that you'd done nothing concrete about it, and were simply speculating about some lawyers you may or may not know possibly doing something for you for free. We also know from your previous posts here, that you are not exactly rich, so ranting and raving on the internet (did you post this shit on Facebook or elswhere?), potentially inviting legal action against yourself in doing so, was completely ineffectual and achieved nothing.
Again, good work on getting paid, this happened because you contacted them directly. Maybe next time, wait a while before you scream shit all over the internet.
Yours intellectualpropertingly,
Shitface.
yourenotevil wrote:this. totally agree. also, the rape analogy was beyond fucking ridiculous and lame.
how much do you charge for someone to use your photo? 50 or maybe 100 dollars? do you really think you would have gotten anything but that amount in a small claims court? because that is where you were going, and you wouldn't need a lawyer for that either.
Welly wrote:obik wrote:
MXV chose to get pissed off, bluster on the internet, and send an invoice.
I would've sent a lawyer, myself.
Who would've said; first port of call: send an invoice.
obik wrote:yourenotevil wrote:this. totally agree. also, the rape analogy was beyond fucking ridiculous and lame.
Absolutely.how much do you charge for someone to use your photo? 50 or maybe 100 dollars? do you really think you would have gotten anything but that amount in a small claims court? because that is where you were going, and you wouldn't need a lawyer for that either.
Copyright claims are not handled in small claims court. MXV would've gone to big boy court and assuming he had copyright registration in hand (even ex-post facto emergency registration) and a lawyer you wasn't a total incompetent, he would have won a substantial financial judgment.
There are normal folks posting images on the internet and then there are businessmen stealing other people's work and using it commercially. This is the latter. It wasn't accidental, it wasn't innocent, and it was done for financial gain.
MXV chose to get pissed off, bluster on the internet, and send an invoice.
I would've sent a lawyer, myself.
And in case it needs to be said: I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, etc.
yourenotevil wrote:if this is true why didn't he follow through and try to cash in?
it is a shitty website using a photo from a story that is what, like 3 years old? i hardly doubt BV is rolling in the dough.
even if he won a big settlement, i doubt they would be able to pay it.
Welly wrote:obik wrote:Welly wrote:obik wrote:
MXV chose to get pissed off, bluster on the internet, and send an invoice.
I would've sent a lawyer, myself.
Who would've said; first port of call: send an invoice.
No copyright lawyer in the world would tell you that.
Seriously.
My dealings must've been with the one decent guy in the whole money pit.
scannest wrote:I don't get the hostility towards MXV at all. He was pissed that a commercial website used one of his photos without permission or compensation. He is professional photographer, fer crissakes.
Y'all are being dicks. Well, not all y'all. But some a y'all.
the mean wrote:How much money should I have demanded from Green Day to let them use my photos of their first show in their upcoming film about "the early years?"
I just sent the negatives over (they are being returned) with a "happy to help out" note.
MXV wrote:the mean wrote:How much money should I have demanded from Green Day to let them use my photos of their first show in their upcoming film about "the early years?"
I just sent the negatives over (they are being returned) with a "happy to help out" note.
You gave them away for free?! To a band who are multimillionaires and could certainly afford to give back to someone for materials for a film?!
Welly wrote:obik wrote:Money isn't everything. Respect is.
Precisely.
I just today got in contact with an old punk photographer about use of a photo. She was really happy I even asked because other people have put her stuff all over the net without asking.
Welly wrote:I just today got in contact with an old punk photographer about use of a photo. She was really happy I even asked because other people have put her stuff all over the net without asking. She just wants a copy of the finished thing from me, and sees it as a silver lining that I saw it via those other people and got in touch.
scannest wrote:So, since people have gotten used to being f*cked in the @ss, you're the good guy cuz you offered to lube up and wear a condom?
Welly wrote:obik wrote:Money isn't everything. Respect is.
Precisely.
Welly wrote:I think your dislike of me means you read my posts from the starting point of: asshole.
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