A terrible US band

[clash77]

The Wipers-Doesn't get much better..Amazing band here.

[Welly]

Ae you saying you like the Wipers or you think they're shit? You been on the glue again?

[Janelle]

Yeah weird - YOU LOVE the Wipers ha

[Janelle]

Ae you saying you like the Wipers or you think they're shit? You been on the glue again?

Carbona not glue

[clash77]

Ae you saying you like the Wipers or you think they're shit? You been on the glue again?

Ha.Love 'em..

[Welly]

Ae you saying you like the Wipers or you think they're shit? You been on the glue again?

Ha.Love 'em..

Great hypnotic quality. I listened to the Youth of America record on a train journey at night the other week, and it was the perfect soundtrack.

[clash77]

Ae you saying you like the Wipers or you think they're shit? You been on the glue again?

Ha.Love 'em..

Great hypnotic quality. I listened to the Youth of America record on a train journey at night the other week, and it was the perfect soundtrack.

Cant get enough..One of the great "overlooked" bands IMO.

[johnnotkathi]

carbonara not glue.........

[77clash]

carbonara not glue.........

love that stuff

[JGJR]

The Wipers-Doesn't get much better..Amazing band here.

Best U.S. band of the last 35 years.

[jason powell]

I love the Wipers and I love carbonara. We make it with morningstar bacon instead of prociutto.

[gregpolard]

The Wipers-Doesn't get much better..Amazing band here.

Best U.S. band of the last 35 years.

You'll say that about the Dum Dum Girls tomorrow.

[Welly]

You'll say that about the Dum Dum Girls tomorrow.

Precisely.

[worldismyfuse]

Wipers might be my favorite band. Youth of America is a masterpiece and Is This Real and Over the Edge are incredible. I can listen to them anytime, over and over...

[scannest]

You'll say that about the Dum Dum Girls tomorrow.

CHECK OUT THE BIG BRAIN ON BRAD!

I MEAN GREG!

[gregpolard]

You'll say that about the Dum Dum Girls tomorrow.

CHECK OUT THE BIG BRAIN ON BRAD!

I MEAN GREG!

I'm not sure I get it.

Edit: never mind. I get it. And I laughed.


(I'm right though, no?)

[tango fistula]

Fantastic band.

Saw them play to 15 people at the Anthrax in Norwalk.

Bold drew 350 two days later same venue.

[tango fistula]

yep...........



"Bold"...aka "Crippled Youth"

None of you have convinced me as to WHY this phase of American H.C. wasn't the
absolute
fucking
worst
ever
ever
ever.

[gregpolard]

Bold were cool. Especially the last 7"

[The Snake]

It is interesting how for almost every band that now play some kind of post punk, someone will write they are influenced by Thew Wipers. But I don´t hear any Wipers similarities with all these new hype dark post arty farty bands.

[clash77]

yep...........



"Bold"...aka "Crippled Youth"

None of you have convinced me as to WHY this phase of American H.C. wasn't the
absolute
fucking
worst
ever
ever
ever.

And this is related to the subject this way, .......... ????????????

[gregpolard]

Fantastic band.

Saw them play to 15 people at the Anthrax in Norwalk.

Bold drew 350 two days later same venue.

attn: clash77, this was where the Bold talk came from.

FWIW, I dig both bands.

[JGJR]

The Wipers-Doesn't get much better..Amazing band here.

Best U.S. band of the last 35 years.

You'll say that about the Dum Dum Girls tomorrow.

They haven't been around that long, silly.

[JGJR]

Wipers might be my favorite band. Youth of America is a masterpiece and Is This Real and Over the Edge are incredible. I can listen to them anytime, over and over...

My new favorite poster.

[JGJR]

Bold were cool. Especially the last 7"

Their best record by far. I like a few songs on Speak Out, but otherwise think they're kinda unlistenable (including Crippled Youth here, too).

[clash77]

Is This Real"..None of you even mention this record??.The best Wipers recordings???..Really?

[clash77]

The Nips...sorry..I needed a thread...Shane is king.."Nervous wreck"..Fuck me!!

[Welly]

It is interesting how for almost every band that now play some kind of post punk, someone will write they are influenced by Thew Wipers. But I don´t hear any Wipers similarities with all these new hype dark post arty farty bands.

Er, that's because it's trendy and they're full of shit.

[john stabb]

I was in a few terrible US bands. Hunter ...

[worldismyfuse]

It is interesting how for almost every band that now play some kind of post punk, someone will write they are influenced by Thew Wipers. But I don´t hear any Wipers similarities with all these new hype dark post arty farty bands.

Er, that's because it's trendy and they're full of shit.

Hot Snakes are the only band that I can think of that sound "influenced" by Wipers, but it's only one part of their sound.

[Welly]

Hot Snakes are the only band that I can think of that sound "influenced" by Wipers, but it's only one part of their sound.

There are a few of the newer post-punk bands that have a strong Wipers influence such as the Estranged, but the vast majority seem to have only ever heard Joy Division and the Cure. There's a huge amount of old post-punk, especially U.S. that has gone almost completely ignored in the current trend.

[scannest]

Hot Snakes are the only band that I can think of that sound "influenced" by Wipers, but it's only one part of their sound.

I'd say all of Speedo's musical endeavors have a strong Wipers influence (some stronger than others, but it is obvious he loves them).

[The Snake]

Speaking of Speedo´s bands, lately I discovered The Sultans and Night Marchers and I like what I hear.

[worldismyfuse]

Hot Snakes are the only band that I can think of that sound "influenced" by Wipers, but it's only one part of their sound.

There are a few of the newer post-punk bands that have a strong Wipers influence such as the Estranged, but the vast majority seem to have only ever heard Joy Division and the Cure. There's a huge amount of old post-punk, especially U.S. that has gone almost completely ignored in the current trend.

Tell me more about the Estranged. A quick look has me interested.

[Welly]

Tell me more about the Estranged. A quick look has me interested.

Portland trio. Members of From Ashes Rise, Hellshock, Remains Of The Day, Lebenden Toten. Three albums, loads of EPs and an album of EPs. First one to hear would probably be Subliminal Man. The new one is a bit more polished, here's my review from the lastest issue...

Portland post-punks back with their third full length. A little more polished and layered than previous albums with crafted song writing and Greg Sage lead guitar. The more mainstream feel borders on a darker indie in places, but still keeping that WIPERS influence, and adding a more British 80’s feel like THE SOUND. Extra black cover art with added black vinyl to add to the blackness. DIRTNAP

[scannest]

Speaking of Speedo´s bands, lately I discovered The Sultans and Night Marchers and I like what I hear.

Night Marchers' 2nd record was my favorite album of last year. I hope he can keep them going.

[worldismyfuse]

Tell me more about the Estranged. A quick look has me interested.

Portland trio. Members of From Ashes Rise, Hellshock, Remains Of The Day, Lebenden Toten. Three albums, loads of EPs and an album of EPs. First one to hear would probably be Subliminal Man. The new one is a bit more polished, here's my review from the lastest issue...

Portland post-punks back with their third full length. A little more polished and layered than previous albums with crafted song writing and Greg Sage lead guitar. The more mainstream feel borders on a darker indie in places, but still keeping that WIPERS influence, and adding a more British 80’s feel like THE SOUND. Extra black cover art with added black vinyl to add to the blackness. DIRTNAP

Thanks Welly. Bought and downloaded Sublimunal Man, after one listen I bought the Static Thoughts and Type Foundry sessions downloads. Good stuff, just what I was looking for!

[JGJR]

Is This Real"..None of you even mention this record??.The best Wipers recordings???..Really?

I love it, but Youth of America and Over the Edge both destroy it IMO. The difference is pretty palpable.

[JGJR]

It is interesting how for almost every band that now play some kind of post punk, someone will write they are influenced by Thew Wipers. But I don´t hear any Wipers similarities with all these new hype dark post arty farty bands.

Er, that's because it's trendy and they're full of shit.

Hot Snakes are the only band that I can think of that sound "influenced" by Wipers, but it's only one part of their sound.

I beg to differ here. I had one of their records (can't remember if it was Audit in Progress or Automatic Midnight) and while I enjoy it, it's just straight-up Wipers worship. I think they admitted it, too. I think The Night Marchers and particularly Drive Like Jehu are much less obvious about it. Also, Milk Music's Cruise Your Illusion from last year is like the follow-up to The Power in One (the last Wipers album, which was released in 1999).

Otherwise, though, they seem to be a well-loved band in recent years, so I think there are others. Jay Reatard liked them, I think. I know Vivian Girls definitely do and they covered "Telepathic Love" and some of their guitar workouts were definitely Wipers-esque. I saw Shellshag cover them once, Shoppers name-dropped them in their lyrics (but don't really sound like them; singer is now in Perfect Pussy).

[Welly]

Thanks Welly. Bought and downloaded Sublimunal Man, after one listen I bought the Static Thoughts and Type Foundry sessions downloads. Good stuff, just what I was looking for!

No problem. Glad to be of service. If you want to hear some real Wipers style that is less influenced-by and more contemporaries-of (drummer Sam Henry was in both early on), then check out the never-talked-about Napalm Beach...

NAPALM BEACH - "Rock & roll hell + trap sampler" LP

Recorded by Greg Sage from the Wipers. This reference includes the "Rock and Roll hell" album and the three songs from the Trap Sampler compilation (Both on Greg Sage's record label, years ago TRAP records) that featured Napalm Beach, Pell Mell, The Wipers and Drum Bunny. Amazing Psycho-r'n'r-punk songs. "Rock and roll hell" is one of the best songs in da world. As Greg Sage said this was a big influence for the Wipers, listen to the songs and you will understand why.

Forgotten apostles from the northwest rock'n'roll saga, you know, Sonics, Wailers, Wipers or The Rats. Napalm Beach released their best songs through Trap records, the Greg Sage label from the Wipers. In this record, you'll get their cassette "Rock'n' roll Hell" and their astonishing contribution to the Trap Sampler compilation. Their songs lack of equidistance, they're tearing, melodic, and they are full of their own sound, which is like desperated and mysterious chemistry. Sage produced these songs erasing whatever he found superficial, reducing and smashing to bits all guitar, bass and drums, leaving his own personal trace like he does nowadays too. The best Wipers songs which aren't in any of the Wipers albums.

[johnnotkathi]

I love the Wipers and I love carbonara. We make it with morningstar bacon instead of prociutto.

try pancetta.......

[scannest]

I saw Shellshag cover them once

And my band covered Steely Dan. That does not mean we can claim any connection or inspiration. We just liked the song.

Shellshag : Wipers = Sublime : Bob Marley

[JGJR]

I saw Shellshag cover them once

And my band covered Steely Dan. That does not mean we can claim any connection or inspiration. We just liked the song.

Shellshag : Wipers = Sublime : Bob Marley

So what you're saying is that you don't like Shellshag? I do, but out of curiosity, ever seen them live? Of course they're not as good as The Wipers, though.

Remind me again what Steely Dan song your band covered.

My main point, though, is that I think Shellshag are way closer sonically to The Wipers than The Thirteen are to Steely Dan. I don't think that's too outrageous of a statement, do you?

[JGJR]

Thanks Welly. Bought and downloaded Sublimunal Man, after one listen I bought the Static Thoughts and Type Foundry sessions downloads. Good stuff, just what I was looking for!

No problem. Glad to be of service. If you want to hear some real Wipers style that is less influenced-by and more contemporaries-of (drummer Sam Henry was in both early on), then check out the never-talked-about Napalm Beach...

NAPALM BEACH - "Rock & roll hell + trap sampler" LP

Recorded by Greg Sage from the Wipers. This reference includes the "Rock and Roll hell" album and the three songs from the Trap Sampler compilation (Both on Greg Sage's record label, years ago TRAP records) that featured Napalm Beach, Pell Mell, The Wipers and Drum Bunny. Amazing Psycho-r'n'r-punk songs. "Rock and roll hell" is one of the best songs in da world. As Greg Sage said this was a big influence for the Wipers, listen to the songs and you will understand why.

Forgotten apostles from the northwest rock'n'roll saga, you know, Sonics, Wailers, Wipers or The Rats. Napalm Beach released their best songs through Trap records, the Greg Sage label from the Wipers. In this record, you'll get their cassette "Rock'n' roll Hell" and their astonishing contribution to the Trap Sampler compilation. Their songs lack of equidistance, they're tearing, melodic, and they are full of their own sound, which is like desperated and mysterious chemistry. Sage produced these songs erasing whatever he found superficial, reducing and smashing to bits all guitar, bass and drums, leaving his own personal trace like he does nowadays too. The best Wipers songs which aren't in any of the Wipers albums.

I dig these songs (not sure if I'd ever heard them before, though I know I've heard a few songs by the band), but their vocalist is nowhere near as powerful as Sage. That's one of the main differences.

[gregpolard]

I saw Shellshag cover them once

And my band covered Steely Dan. That does not mean we can claim any connection or inspiration. We just liked the song.

Shellshag : Wipers = Sublime : Bob Marley

So what you're saying is that you don't like Shellshag? I do, but out of curiosity, ever seen them live? Of course they're not as good as The Wipers, though.

Remind me again what Steely Dan song your band covered.

My main point, though, is that I think Shellshag are way closer sonically to The Wipers than The Thirteen are to Steely Dan. I don't think that's too outrageous of a statement, do you?

Steely Dan cover is a bonus track on the download for "Lift-Off". I forget which song at the moment!

[scannest]

So what you're saying is that you don't like Shellshag? I do, but out of curiosity, ever seen them live? Of course they're not as good as The Wipers, though.

My main point, though, is that I think Shellshag are way closer sonically to The Wipers than The Thirteen are to Steely Dan. I don't think that's too outrageous of a statement, do you?

Yes, I do. I've had to sit through Shellshag twice on a couple Don Giovanni showcase bills and I think they are terrible. Just a train wreck of "gosh, aren't we wacky!" amateurish mediocrity.
But hey, maybe their records are awesome. I'm sure people have said the same of the Replacements and I kinda like them. A little.

[scannest]

Steely Dan cover is a bonus track on the download for "Lift-Off". I forget which song at the moment!

"Barrytown", FWIW.

[scannest]

And I'm thrilled that JGJR brought Shellshag into a thread called "A Terrible US Band".

[gregpolard]

Steely Dan cover is a bonus track on the download for "Lift-Off". I forget which song at the moment!

"Barrytown", FWIW.

Thank you! Had a brain freeze.

[JGJR]

So what you're saying is that you don't like Shellshag? I do, but out of curiosity, ever seen them live? Of course they're not as good as The Wipers, though.

My main point, though, is that I think Shellshag are way closer sonically to The Wipers than The Thirteen are to Steely Dan. I don't think that's too outrageous of a statement, do you?

Yes, I do. I've had to sit through Shellshag twice on a couple Don Giovanni showcase bills and I think they are terrible. Just a train wreck of "gosh, aren't we wacky!" amateurish mediocrity.
But hey, maybe their records are awesome. I'm sure people have said the same of the Replacements and I kinda like them. A little.

I only have one of their records and I dig it, but I actually may prefer their live show the one time I saw them back in 2008. Yes, they are amateur-ish, but maybe they just work better in a gallery/house space (where I saw them; it was at Danger Danger House in West Philly) than at a place like MHOW. And I had a feeling you would've seen them there (at the DG showcases).