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by **xxxMidgexxx** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:55 am

DRUMS:
I am starting to completely LOVE Dale Crover. Always respected the guy, but the more I listen to his playing, I realize what a talented dude he really is. Listen to his playing on "The Bloated Pope' from Melvins/Lustmord 'Pigs of the The Roman Empire. You will sprain your brain.

There's plenty good music on that album, noise or otherwise.

by **scannest** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:02 am

Dale has been filling in on drums for OFF!. I wouldn't mind seeing that.

As for underrated players, I'm gonna nominate Tommy Stinson. Everyone talks about his attitude/spirit, but very rarely do people talk about his playing. But listening to TIM again recently made me appreciate what a really melodic, driving bassist he is.

by **Chris Shary** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:38 am

Micky Offender, basist for The Offenders, DRI, Sister Double Happiness.

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:48 am

BASS:
Tufty. Zero Boys and Toxic Reasons.

Man is a God of player.

by **obik** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:47 am

Drums:

Palmolive of the Slits.

No, I'm not kidding.

by **Gary** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:49 am

xxxMidgexxx wrote:DRUMS:
I am starting to completely LOVE Dale Crover. Always respected the guy, but the more I listen to his playing, I realize what a talented dude he really is. Listen to his playing on "The Bloated Pope' from Melvins/Lustmord 'Pigs of the The Roman Empire. You will sprain your brain.

There's plenty good music on that album, noise or otherwise.

Not sure I'd consider Crover underrated. He's been spoken highly of for as long as I can remember.

by **version sound** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:15 pm

Lucky Lehrer

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:33 pm

Gary wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:DRUMS:
I am starting to completely LOVE Dale Crover. Always respected the guy, but the more I listen to his playing, I realize what a talented dude he really is. Listen to his playing on "The Bloated Pope' from Melvins/Lustmord 'Pigs of the The Roman Empire. You will sprain your brain.

There's plenty good music on that album, noise or otherwise.

Not sure I'd consider Crover underrated. He's been spoken highly of for as long as I can remember.

I haven't heard too many people raving, but I hope you are right.

by **john stabb** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:04 pm

Moulty (The Barbarians) - what that drummer does with a hook and 1 hand on "Are you a boy or are you a girl"" is simply barbaric.

by **scannest** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:01 am

john stabb wrote:Moulty (The New Barbarians) - what that drummer does with a hook and 1 hand on "Are you a boy or are you a girl"" is simply barbaric.

As much as I chuckled at your comment (and I did chuckle!) I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Moulty was the drummer for the Barbarians. The New Barbarians was a late 70s coke fueled side project of Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood. Their drummer had two hands.

Website · by **JGJR** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:12 pm

scannest wrote:Dale has been filling in on drums for OFF!. I wouldn't mind seeing that.

As for underrated players, I'm gonna nominate Tommy Stinson. Everyone talks about his attitude/spirit, but very rarely do people talk about his playing. But listening to TIM again recently made me appreciate what a really melodic, driving bassist he is.

On that same topic, though Josh Freese improves them and is a great drummer, I have always really liked Chris Mars' playing on Pleased to Meet Me in particular.

Website · by **JGJR** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:13 pm

obik wrote:Drums:

Palmolive of the Slits.

No, I'm not kidding.

I think they improved a lot when Budgie joined (sorry).

Website · by **JGJR** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:14 pm

version sound wrote:Lucky Lehrer

Yep.

Website · by **JGJR** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:14 pm

xxxMidgexxx wrote:BASS:
Tufty. Zero Boys and Toxic Reasons.

Man is a God of player.

Yep.

by **version sound** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:32 pm

Sterling Morrison

by **danny** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:52 pm

jody stephens

by **obik** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:00 pm

JGJR wrote:
obik wrote:Drums:

Palmolive of the Slits.

No, I'm not kidding.

I think they improved a lot when Budgie joined (sorry).

That's just about the point they began their slide into absolute irrelevance...

by **captain2man** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:19 pm

C'mon - half of these guys aren't underrated. Dale Crover and Lucky Lehrer have both been given props for their playing......even Tufty from the Zero Boys to some extent.

Underrated?

How about Michael Giles - drums on the first two King Crimson records. No one knows who he is, but his playing is unearthly.

How about Jerry Penrod - bassist on the first Iron Butterfly record.....playing is totally sick.

In the punk rock world - I'll give you a few Iron City guys......Andy Flag, original bassist in Anti-Flag - totally sick bassist who was also a hoot to watch. I still say they were at their best (and most interesting and creative) when he was in the band. Greg Mairs - drummer for Submachine - total monster. And while we're at it, so is Jeff Cherep (guitarist - also played in Doomwatch)....both of those guys are sick.

I'll also say that the guys in 1.6 Band were mind-blowing - Mike Yanicelli (guitar), Lance Jaeger (bass) & Vin Novara (drums) - all monster players.

Website · by **JGJR** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:37 am

obik wrote:
JGJR wrote:
obik wrote:Drums:

Palmolive of the Slits.

No, I'm not kidding.

I think they improved a lot when Budgie joined (sorry).

That's just about the point they began their slide into absolute irrelevance...

If you think Cut and that amazing 1981 BBC session are "irrelevant" then you hear things very differently from the way I do. I'll take the 1st BBC session (their punkest stuff) over the 2nd Lp (which I think is boring, honestly), but not the rest of their stuff.

by **gregpolard** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:42 am

danny wrote:jody stephens

GREAT choice.

by **obik** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:54 am

JGJR wrote:
obik wrote:
JGJR wrote:
obik wrote:Drums:

Palmolive of the Slits.

No, I'm not kidding.

I think they improved a lot when Budgie joined (sorry).

That's just about the point they began their slide into absolute irrelevance...

If you think Cut and that amazing 1981 BBC session are "irrelevant" then you hear things very differently from the way I do.

Cut is okay. If I'd never heard the earlier recordings of those songs (Peel/Y3LP/Punk Rock Movie), I don't think I'd give it a second listen, though.

I haven't listened to the 81 Peel Session in forever, but I remember it being shit, just like their second LP.

by **tango fistula** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:06 pm

For drums it would be Billy Atwell of Th Inbred and Rhythm Pigs.

He was and is that awesome.

Criminally underrated.

by **Chris Shary** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:48 pm

Th' Inbred and Rhythm Pigs can go down as criminally underrated BANDS! So great, and so weird. Love both. Excellent call!

by **77clash** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:51 pm

I love "The Positive Song".

by **tango fistula** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:36 am

This song runs thru my head often...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkj7Apv4oTY

by **Welly** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:39 am

Chris Shary wrote:Th' Inbred and Rhythm Pigs can go down as criminally underrated BANDS! So great, and so weird. Love both. Excellent call!

by **Welly** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:39 am

tango fistula wrote:This song runs thru my head often...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkj7Apv4oTY

Me too.

by **lewdd** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:42 am

Welly didnt you do the artwork for the cd?

by **Welly** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:52 am

lewdd wrote:Welly didnt you do the artwork for the cd?

Yup.

by **xxxMidgexxx** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:09 pm

DRUMS: The dude from System of a Down.

This guy is really terrific.

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