Boston hardcore 1981. - 1984.

[The Snake]

So, there is a lots of talk about early Boston hardcore punk bands.
Which are your favorite bands?

Mine is definitely Negative Fx. Even though some other early Boston bands had their original sound, I think that Negative Fx stands out with their manic fast hardcore (but still it wasn´t just tuneless thrash) in 1982. Except for DRI, nobody played like that at the time.
Also, just because their LP was released in 1984. (which was recorded in 1982.) when they were already broken up, I think that the LP didn´t received a "classic" status like some other hc/punk records from that time (1980. - 1983.). So, because of that, Negative Fx were more influential for some later generations of hc/punk kids (from Infest to some grind core bands), at least that is mine impression.

As for other early Boston bands, I´m into Jerry´s Kids, DYS, Gang Green (Boston, not LA tracks), The Freeze, SSD (first two records), Last Rights, Vile... Siege also if they fall into that period, or were they later generation?
Never was into FU´s that much, but I think they are solid band... Deathwish and Impact Unit are also OK...

[version sound]

XClaim releases by:
SS Decontrol
DYS
Jerry's Kids

Also:
Gang Green (BNLA and first single)
Negative FX
The Freeze

[yourenotevil]

to me, 90 percent of the old boston bands were great, or at least good. i am having a hard time thinking of stuff that is just average. stuff like the freeze and proletariat doesn't thrill me like nfx or siege, but it's still good punk rock for the most part. after 84 it became a different story though. ssd, fu's, siege, deep wound(if you count them), dys, negative fx, last rights would be at the top of the heap for me.

[The Snake]

Yeah, Deep Wound also, even though they are from Western Mass.

[version sound]

To be fair, Western Mass is only about an hour away from Boston. Void were from Columbia, MD (30-45 minutes outside DC), but are widely considered a DC band. So...close enough.

[The Snake]

To be fair, Western Mass is only about an hour away from Boston. Void were from Columbia, MD (30-45 minutes outside DC), but are widely considered a DC band. So...close enough.

I agree. So, Deep Wound is also on my list of favorite early Boston hc/punk bands.

[yourenotevil]

To be fair, Western Mass is only about an hour away from Boston. Void were from Columbia, MD (30-45 minutes outside DC), but are widely considered a DC band. So...close enough.

yeah, i mean, i would always consider void and scream(i think they were out from outside dc too) as dc bands too. east coast people get all anal about that kind of shit for some reason with punk bands. if you made someone realize the true location of the band they called LA punk(like the minutemen) you wouldn't get very far.

[worldismyfuse]

Jerry's Kids because they made "Is This My World?" and that is my absolute favorite Boston record.
Deep Wound because the 7" is super awesome and a personal favorite (and plus I'm a Mascis nerd).
The Proletariat is awesome and writing this makes me want to put on that 2xCD.
And I've always really like The Freeze and I never felt they got the attention they deserved. Some really incredible, memorable songs.

[worldismyfuse]

Oh yes - Siege. Brutal, incredible band.

[JGJR]

To be fair, Western Mass is only about an hour away from Boston. Void were from Columbia, MD (30-45 minutes outside DC), but are widely considered a DC band. So...close enough.

yeah, i mean, i would always consider void and scream(i think they were out from outside dc too) as dc bands too. east coast people get all anal about that kind of shit for some reason with punk bands. if you made someone realize the true location of the band they called LA punk(like the minutemen) you wouldn't get very far.

Scream were from Baileys Crossing, VA. To be completely fair, though, San Pedro is still within the (obviously very large; geographically speaking) boundary of LA, though far from Hollywood, etc. and at its very southern-most point basically.

[yourenotevil]

To be fair, Western Mass is only about an hour away from Boston. Void were from Columbia, MD (30-45 minutes outside DC), but are widely considered a DC band. So...close enough.

yeah, i mean, i would always consider void and scream(i think they were out from outside dc too) as dc bands too. east coast people get all anal about that kind of shit for some reason with punk bands. if you made someone realize the true location of the band they called LA punk(like the minutemen) you wouldn't get very far.

Scream were from Baileys Crossing, VA. To be completely fair, though, San Pedro is still within the (obviously very large; geographically speaking) boundary of LA, though far from Hollywood, etc. and at its very southern-most point basically.

NERD!!!!!

[john stabb]

Original G.I. :Marc, Brian, me (MD) & John (MD/DC border.) Artificial Peace (MD), Red C: Eric , Tomas, Pete ( MD), and Toni (DC), Marginal Man (MD) I resided in VA (Dischord House) in late '81 till went back home to MD. Then in '83 moved in with Tom in DC (everyone except Mitch & Mike who lived in DC) in G.I. line-ups lived in MD. I even moved into group houses from hell in MD from '84-early '86 till moving back to DC (winter '86-'89) during the last line-up. You could say G.I. was probably the most sketchy to call ourselves "from WDC". Next chapter: Minor Threat.

Is everyone well confused now








(waiting to be called ________!!!!

[NotBaker]

Scream were from Baileys Crossing

Bailey's Crossroads

[scannest]

Scream were from Baileys Crossing

Bailey's Crossroads

Detailed explanation of simple mistake in 5...4...3...2...1...

[JGJR]

Scream were from Baileys Crossing

Bailey's Crossroads

Detailed explanation of simple mistake in 5...4...3...2...1...

Not that detailed: I'm not from the DC area and didn't use Google beforehand.

Thanks for the correction, NotBaker.

[john stabb]

Scream were the BXR boys.

[lewdd]

Can someone send me the Decadence demos?

[JGJR]

Can someone send me the Decadence demos?

Let me guess, you want the Pea Soup and Insurrection demos as well?

EDIT: This is a Boston thread, not DC.

[version sound]

Can someone send me the Decadence demos?

Let me guess, you want the Pea Soup and Insurrection demos as well?

EDIT: This is a Boston thread, not DC.

Were you correcting yourself? Decadence were actually from Boston.

[JGJR]

Can someone send me the Decadence demos?

Let me guess, you want the Pea Soup and Insurrection demos as well?

EDIT: This is a Boston thread, not DC.

Were you correcting yourself? Decadence were actually from Boston.

Yes (to the first question). I just thought it was one of the DC things that's more mythical or impossible to find than a realistic request until I remembered they were (I think) on This is Boston Not LA, hence my correction.

[lewdd]

Can someone send me the Decadence demos?

Let me guess, you want the Pea Soup and Insurrection demos as well?

EDIT: This is a Boston thread, not DC.

Were you correcting yourself? Decadence were actually from Boston.

Yes (to the first question). I just thought it was one of the DC things that's more mythical or impossible to find than a realistic request until I remembered they were (I think) on This is Boston Not LA, hence my correction.

I would like a copy of all 3.

[version sound]

I don't really give a fook about Pea Soup. Based on all descriptions, it sounds pretty uninteresting. I'd love to hear the Insurrection demo, though. I like the live set I got from obik.

[Welly]

Even though some other early Boston bands had their original sound, I think that Negative Fx stands out with their manic fast hardcore (but still it wasn´t just tuneless thrash) in 1982. Except for DRI, nobody played like that at the time.

Really?

[The Snake]

Even though some other early Boston bands had their original sound, I think that Negative Fx stands out with their manic fast hardcore (but still it wasn´t just tuneless thrash) in 1982. Except for DRI, nobody played like that at the time.

Really?

Yeah, totally!

[Stormy]

2 absolute faves
Jerry's Kids tracks from This is Boston - first and foremost
the Siege tracks from Cleanse the Bacteria

the Deathwish 1982 12" that was just released is killer
FU's first LP
Deep Wound demo and EP

[The Snake]

Deathwish 12 ˝ is released, that´s good news!

[Welly]

So, nobody played 'manic fast hardcore' in 1982 apart from Negative FX and D.R.I.?

[yourenotevil]

2 absolute faves
Jerry's Kids tracks from This is Boston - first and foremost
the Siege tracks from Cleanse the Bacteria

the Deathwish 1982 12" that was just released is killer
FU's first LP
Deep Wound demo and EP

do you have mp3s of that? or does it come with a download when you buy it? kind of sucks you have to buy the cd of the 86 session with lp.

[version sound]

2 absolute faves
Jerry's Kids tracks from This is Boston - first and foremost
the Siege tracks from Cleanse the Bacteria

the Deathwish 1982 12" that was just released is killer
FU's first LP
Deep Wound demo and EP

do you have mp3s of that? or does it come with a download when you buy it? kind of sucks you have to buy the cd of the 86 session with lp.

Yeah, I just sent then a message asking if I could buy only the 12". I'm not spending $25 (with shipping) just to get the 12".

[yourenotevil]

2 absolute faves
Jerry's Kids tracks from This is Boston - first and foremost
the Siege tracks from Cleanse the Bacteria

the Deathwish 1982 12" that was just released is killer
FU's first LP
Deep Wound demo and EP

do you have mp3s of that? or does it come with a download when you buy it? kind of sucks you have to buy the cd of the 86 session with lp.

Yeah, I just sent then a message asking if I could buy only the 12". I'm not spending $25 (with shipping) just to get the 12".

it looks like the record just comes in a dj sleeve too. i am guessing it doesn't have a download code with it.

[The Snake]

So, nobody played 'manic fast hardcore' in 1982 apart from Negative FX and D.R.I.?

Not like that, no.
I mean, there was bunch of European bands also playing manic fast hardcore in 82, but not as good as NFX or DRI.
And OK, there was Void already doing that in 1981.

[version sound]

So, nobody played 'manic fast hardcore' in 1982 apart from Negative FX and D.R.I.?

Not like that, no.
I mean, there was bunch of European bands also playing manic fast hardcore in 82, but not as good as NFX or DRI.
And OK, there was Void already doing that in 1981.

There were a ton of bands already doing it in 1981 in Boston alone.

[version sound]

2 absolute faves
Jerry's Kids tracks from This is Boston - first and foremost
the Siege tracks from Cleanse the Bacteria

the Deathwish 1982 12" that was just released is killer
FU's first LP
Deep Wound demo and EP

do you have mp3s of that? or does it come with a download when you buy it? kind of sucks you have to buy the cd of the 86 session with lp.

Yeah, I just sent then a message asking if I could buy only the 12". I'm not spending $25 (with shipping) just to get the 12".

Nope. All or nothing. I guess it's going to be nothing for me.

[The Snake]

So, nobody played 'manic fast hardcore' in 1982 apart from Negative FX and D.R.I.?

Not like that, no.
I mean, there was bunch of European bands also playing manic fast hardcore in 82, but not as good as NFX or DRI.
And OK, there was Void already doing that in 1981.

There were a ton of bands already doing it in 1981 in Boston alone.

Yeah, but my point is that there was no band from 82 that you can compare to Negative FX just like there was no band form 84 that you can compare with Siege.

[version sound]

Negative FX were pretty much generic Boston Crew hardcore. I bought that record when it came out and certainly didn't feel like I was hearing anything I hadn't heard 100 times before. I like it and always have, but it's not groundbreaking in any way.

[The Snake]

Negative FX were pretty much generic Boston Crew hardcore. I bought that record when it came out and certainly didn't feel like I was hearing anything I hadn't heard 100 times before. I like it and always have, but it's not groundbreaking in any way.

That was also my point, because the LP came out in 1984. If it was released in 1982. when it was recorded it would probably be considered a classic.
But that´s just my opinion. As I´ve said before, I like some other Boston stuff too, Jerry´s Kids, DYS, early Gang Green, The Freeze, Deep Wound, SSD...

[version sound]

I consider it a classic, I just don't think it was all that unique, even in 1982. Remember, the Minor Threat EPs came out in 1981 and endless bands followed their lead shortly thereafter.

[The Snake]

I consider it a classic, I just don't think it was all that unique, even in 1982. Remember, the Minor Threat EPs came out in 1981 and endless bands followed their lead shortly thereafter.

Well, then we kinda agree on this one.

[Welly]

Yeah, but my point is that there was no band from 82 that you can compare to Negative FX

just like there was no band form 84 that you can compare with Siege.

[The Snake]

Still, it´s not the same.

[Welly]

Yeah, different bands. Fuckin' nuts.

[The Snake]

Yeah, different bands, different sounds. Negative Approach and Negative Fx.

[Welly]

Coke or Pepsi?

[The Snake]

Ha ha, you won.

[rawpowerNZ]

Morning! So, has anyone got the recently released archival Deathwish 12" yet? Just curious if it lives up to the killer Tailgate 7"ep? And there is also mentioned on the site of an expected Deathwish 7" too. Just a bummer that you have to buy the 2 12"s as a package as previously mentioned. Is it Deathwish or Death Wish?! Thanks!

[version sound]

Even worse, the Loved Ones is a CD. If it was vinyl, I might give in.

[Stormy]

Not my rip, got it from another board. It's the Deathwish 12" of the 1983 session. Like 8 minutes long.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/i9fobo

Also, i'll take Septic Death over any Boston HC, and 90% of HC in general.

[version sound]

Not my rip, got it from another board. It's the Deathwish 12" of the 1983 session. Like 8 minutes long.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/i9fobo

Also, i'll take Septic Death over any Boston HC, and 90% of HC in general.

Many thanks. I'll still buy the 12" if I see it in a distro. Has anyone heard The Loved Ones?

[The Snake]

Not my rip, got it from another board. It's the Deathwish 12" of the 1983 session. Like 8 minutes long.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/i9fobo

Also, i'll take Septic Death over any Boston HC, and 90% of HC in general.

Thanks a bunch!
Deathwish are great!

[yourenotevil]

Not my rip, got it from another board. It's the Deathwish 12" of the 1983 session. Like 8 minutes long.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/i9fobo

Also, i'll take Septic Death over any Boston HC, and 90% of HC in general.

Many thanks. I'll still buy the 12" if I see it in a distro. Has anyone heard The Loved Ones?

thanks for the rip.


VS- the loved ones has been floating around as a second deathwish session for awhile. i remember it sounding like later era dag nasty, but it wasn't that good.