xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
tango fistula wrote:Out here in AZ that "scene" is a refuge for former skinheads.
Total sha-na-na fest.....a bunch of sad paunchy clowns longing for a time in history where civil rights did not exist and women were for breeding and domestic servitude.
yourenotevil wrote:tango fistula wrote:Out here in AZ that "scene" is a refuge for former skinheads.
Total sha-na-na fest.....a bunch of sad paunchy clowns longing for a time in history where civil rights did not exist and women were for breeding and domestic servitude.
yeah, that is what it mainly was out in southern CA too, esp for washed up nazis who didn't want to live the life anymore.
SamDBL wrote:yourenotevil wrote:tango fistula wrote:Out here in AZ that "scene" is a refuge for former skinheads.
Total sha-na-na fest.....a bunch of sad paunchy clowns longing for a time in history where civil rights did not exist and women were for breeding and domestic servitude.
yeah, that is what it mainly was out in southern CA too, esp for washed up nazis who didn't want to live the life anymore.
So what's the problem? You're bummed that they didn't stick to their skinhead ways?
I've never been much for fashion statements, myself. But I can see why people do this sort of thing. In my experience, they are simply drawn to the asthetic of the time along with the attraction to being part of a sub-culture or club. Not my thing, but whatever. I only think it's lame when they informally make other people feel excluded or look down on them because they don't feel like playing dress up.
On another note, that type of music, when done 'right', is pretty amazing. My standard is usually if the guitar playing is amazing, as it ought to be. I love all things Brian Setzer, for instance.
SamDBL wrote:Well I personally never experienced this, though I don't doubt that you did. What I have experienced is nazi skinhead dudes that grew up at some point and grew out of the whole thing to the degree that whether they were still racist or not (who knows) they ceased exhibiting that behaviour in pretty much every perceivable way. I think it's great when people move on from that stuff. I don't think I ever knew any, in particular, that became grease monkey/rockabilly types. And I've certainly never met a rockabilly type person that told me they were attracted to that scene because it represented an era of overt racism.
Beyond that, I think it's pretty lame to suggest that the majority of rockabilly type dudes are ex-skinheads, if that's what you're doing. That's a pretty far out generalization. Like I said, I've been to a ton of these shows (toured with Rev Heat and Necromantics) and known a lot of these people and they're just the same as any other group of people that are into submersing themselves fully into some subculture out of boredom, or whatever. The same as people that have mohawks or mod suits X'ed hands or whatever. I'm not doubting people that you mention exist. I just don't think that's the standard representation of someone into rockabilly stuff, is all.
obik wrote:I would've thought the psychobilly community's longstanding ties to the white power movement--e.g. Demented Are Go moonlighting as the Klansmen with Ian Stuart from Skrewdriver singing--would turn you off.
SamDBL wrote:obik wrote:I would've thought the psychobilly community's longstanding ties to the white power movement--e.g. Demented Are Go moonlighting as the Klansmen with Ian Stuart from Skrewdriver singing--would turn you off.
Are there any other examples of this type of thing?
SamDBL wrote:Imo, that's a shame. But obviously your perogative. I think there are some really good bands in that genre. I'd never have condemned the entire genre because one notable band out of hundreds had a questionable stance twenty + years ago.
Or because I had rough experiences with some dorks on a messageboard.
obik wrote:...disinclined me from investigating psychobilly as a genre any further.
psychobilly
obik wrote:SamDBL wrote:Imo, that's a shame. But obviously your perogative. I think there are some really good bands in that genre. I'd never have condemned the entire genre because one notable band out of hundreds had a questionable stance twenty + years ago.
Forming a band called the Klansmen so you can play racist songs with the singer from Skrewdriver is more than just a "questionable stance".
Welly wrote:Pffft wrote:I do know that a lot of the Nazi skins I encountered in san diego I later saw in the rockabilly scene. It's jokingly referred to the skinhead retirement plan.
There and Atlanta was where I saw the worst of the skinheads in the U.S. on my travels. That club SOMA in SD seemed to be over-run with the morons.
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