xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
BAIN wrote:got mine for $5.99, but just looked on ebay = holy fuck what assholes
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:I bought a download from iTunes for $5.99. And given that each side of that 7" runs around 6 1/2 minutes, I don't suspect you're getting the highest fidelity experience with the vinyl.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:...I don't like paying for downloads....
scannest wrote:JGJR wrote:...I don't like paying for downloads....
You, sir, are the problem. As per Gene Simmons, at least.
And "like" didn't enter into it as I wanted the record and didn't buy the vinyl before it sold out.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:I used to not like paying for downloads but now I don't mind it, even though I prefer owning the vinyl. I buy a good amt of stuff on iTunes, it's so easy.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:With the amount of stuff available via streaming (for a monthly fee or for free) or on YouTube and what not, I find it difficult to justify unless it's the only format something is released in.
scannest wrote:JGJR wrote:With the amount of stuff available via streaming (for a monthly fee or for free) or on YouTube and what not, I find it difficult to justify unless it's the only format something is released in.
Streaming and/or YouTube is different. The implication of your ellipses was that your were going to D/L the record illegally ("True, but I don't like paying for downloads. A CD would be silly given how short it is, so....")
If I came to the wrong conclusion, I apologize.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:BAIN wrote:got mine for $5.99, but just looked on ebay = holy fuck what assholes
What are the going rates? Did you order it right away? Curious how you got it for that price.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:If you make a gimmick record and press so few that it immediately becomes an eBay collector scum item
version sound wrote:If you make a gimmick record and press so few that it immediately becomes an eBay collector scum item, expect people to download for free. I'm not saying it's ok to steal music, but in this situation you're basically inviting it.
FlexMyHead wrote:The Husker Du/Squirrel Bait sound is refreshing, his vocals fit the style as well, the bare-bones bass lines sound great, any more fills and it wouldn't sound right. The guitar sounds jangly like the 1st Chemical People and early Descendents (sonically).
version sound wrote:Face it, this EP is just a stunt to promote his new LP. I never said it was ok to steal it, just that we live in a culture in which anything that gets this kind of hype is going to be downloaded illegally. You think he's some rube who isn't aware of that? This thing was 100% calculated to generate hype to sell his new album.
version sound wrote:Damn Sal, maybe you should switch to decaf.
version sound wrote:Furthermore (oh shit, it's about to GET REAL), Spotify is basically like going into a store, grabbing a CD, flipping a quarter at the person behind the counter, and marching out.
Scratch that, it's more like doing it at the merch table at a gig.
version sound wrote:My understanding was that those deals are made by the labels, not the artists. Maybe big hitters have more say, though.
version sound wrote:I think the fact that Zeppelin and Floyd gave in says a lot about the percieved importance of Spotify. They aren't on there because they are making a lot of money from it, they're on there to try to retain some sort of relevance to people who didn't grow up with them. A less established artist has even less choice. Either take the .006 cents per play (actual rate, according to Thom Yorke) and shut up, or be excluded from that entire audience.
version sound wrote:A band like Zepplin who has fans that keep rebuying their catalog every time there is some new version of it can afford to get nothing from Spotify. Younger bands are basically giving their music away for free just to stay in the game, and hoping to recoup it in ticket sales (I'm guessing).
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
version sound wrote:Also, is there a real difference between repeatedly listening to something on YouTube instead of paying for it and downloading something from a blog instead of paying for it? Did Ryan Adams upload it himself? If not, you're still kind of stealing it, aren't you?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:Yeah, people like the average poster on this board use Spotify to listen to stuff they already own, or check out (then possibly buy) stuff they don't. However, I think the average user probably just uses it as their personal music collection. My wife has a premium subscription and I don't remember the last time she bought music in any form.
JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:Also, is there a real difference between repeatedly listening to something on YouTube instead of paying for it and downloading something from a blog instead of paying for it? Did Ryan Adams upload it himself? If not, you're still kind of stealing it, aren't you?
I don't want to get into this debate, but I am fully on team VS here. I will say that I have been this listening to this EP on YouTube (verging on dozens of times now) the entire week and I do believe that's true re: one of the uploads being official. We live in an age where U2 gives away its new album to anyone with an iTunes account or an iPhone.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:Also, is there a real difference between repeatedly listening to something on YouTube instead of paying for it and downloading something from a blog instead of paying for it? Did Ryan Adams upload it himself? If not, you're still kind of stealing it, aren't you?
I don't want to get into this debate, but I am fully on team VS here. I will say that I have been this listening to this EP on YouTube (verging on dozens of times now) the entire week and I do believe that's true re: one of the uploads being official. We live in an age where U2 gives away its new album to anyone with an iTunes account or an iPhone.
Free to us, but not free to them. Apple paid for that big time.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
yourenotevil wrote:i think serious music fans are always going to end up buying a physical copy of an album they like.
JGJR wrote:...I do believe that's true re: one of the uploads being official.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:I almost actually listened to this thing based on all the hype around here. Thankfully, Pitchfork stepped in just in time to let me know that it's not that good.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19778-ryan-adams-ryan-adams1984-ep/
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:version sound wrote:I almost actually listened to this thing based on all the hype around here. Thankfully, Pitchfork stepped in just in time to let me know that it's not that good.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19778-ryan-adams-ryan-adams1984-ep/
Just saw this, too. Idiots.
version sound wrote:gregpolard wrote:version sound wrote:I almost actually listened to this thing based on all the hype around here. Thankfully, Pitchfork stepped in just in time to let me know that it's not that good.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19778-ryan-adams-ryan-adams1984-ep/
Just saw this, too. Idiots.
The funny thing is that the review itself is pretty glowing. However they assign the numerical ratings is obviously complete bullshit. I think that Sal said before that it's not even the reviewers themselves who do it.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
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