scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
Welly wrote:Sounds different. I've got both. But only vinyl. New Alliance is superior.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:How different are they? Never heard them, truth be told. I've had the SST versions since I first got into them.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:It was the first two LPs. Got them from Lew. Where is that dude? WE NEED YOU LEW! PLEASE COME HOME!
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Matschy wrote:speculation time:
I'm just comparing those mp3's with the sst vinyl and the difference is marginal.
My setup ist quite mediocre (technics 1210, cheapo ortofon system) and i'd guess
a better setup would make the "difference".
i also don't think that it's the Cd master as the earliest Cd version came out in
1991 (via two things at once), while the SST vinyl was already done in 1987.
...at least if those dates on discogs are correct!
WrEtcH wrote:Matschy wrote:speculation time:
I'm just comparing those mp3's with the sst vinyl and the difference is marginal.
My setup ist quite mediocre (technics 1210, cheapo ortofon system) and i'd guess
a better setup would make the "difference".
i also don't think that it's the Cd master as the earliest Cd version came out in
1991 (via two things at once), while the SST vinyl was already done in 1987.
...at least if those dates on discogs are correct!
it's been a while since I dug out the vinyl but yeah, I do have "Milo Goes" & "Enjoy" before SST grabbed 'em. Can't remember if "I Don't Want To Grow" was originally on SST or New Alliance. It's been ages since my turn table broke and I was playing my cassettes, then eventually made the jump to CD.
Gary wrote:I never knew there was a difference. I've had the NAR version of "Milo..." forever and it's the only version I know. As an aside,only the NAR version has the lyrics,right?
MXV wrote:Gary wrote:I never knew there was a difference. I've had the NAR version of "Milo..." forever and it's the only version I know. As an aside,only the NAR version has the lyrics,right?
Only the very first press of the vinyl had a lyric sheet. The second one which was more common did not. None of the SST versions did either although they may have printed the lyrics in the CD, I forget as it has been years since I even looked at mine.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
Knutsen wrote:OK here are my 2 cents:
I dont really believe that they sound different due to a new mastering process.
MGTC was released as NAR05 in 1982, the re-release as SST 142 was in 1988.
I would imagin that Mike Watt just drove from San Pedro to Lawndale to hand the tape reels over to Greg Ginn.
Would they really have needed a new mastering process? Is this necessary?
Factors for a declined sound quality may have been that the tape aged or that the vinyl pressing was not of the same quality.
Different example same thing:
I got the NAR vinyl of Hüsker Düs Landspeed record. The grooves widen between the songs.
No widening of the grooves on the Alternative Tentacles re-release. This means they had cut a new lacquer?
I am confusing myself.
Knutsen wrote:OK here are my 2 cents:
I dont really believe that they sound different due to a new mastering process.
MGTC was released as NAR05 in 1982, the re-release as SST 142 was in 1988.
I would imagin that Mike Watt just drove from San Pedro to Lawndale to hand the tape reels over to Greg Ginn.
Would they really have needed a new mastering process? Is this necessary?
Factors for a declined sound quality may have been that the tape aged or that the vinyl pressing was not of the same quality.
Different example same thing:
I got the NAR vinyl of Hüsker Düs Landspeed record. The grooves widen between the songs.
No widening of the grooves on the Alternative Tentacles re-release. This means they had cut a new lacquer?
I am confusing myself.
jaybird wrote:I'm almost positive the SST version of MGTC came out in the summer of 1987. The reason I remember is because I bought it at Schoolkid's Records in Ann Arbor, on my way home from freshman orientation at Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo. I just looked at my copy, SST 142 and it says "(p) 1987 SST Records P.O. Box 1 Lawndale, CA 90260"
Make of that what you will.
Knutsen wrote:jaybird wrote:I'm almost positive the SST version of MGTC came out in the summer of 1987. The reason I remember is because I bought it at Schoolkid's Records in Ann Arbor, on my way home from freshman orientation at Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo. I just looked at my copy, SST 142 and it says "(p) 1987 SST Records P.O. Box 1 Lawndale, CA 90260"
Make of that what you will.
very probably a misprint.
Welly wrote:Knutsen wrote:jaybird wrote:I'm almost positive the SST version of MGTC came out in the summer of 1987. The reason I remember is because I bought it at Schoolkid's Records in Ann Arbor, on my way home from freshman orientation at Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo. I just looked at my copy, SST 142 and it says "(p) 1987 SST Records P.O. Box 1 Lawndale, CA 90260"
Make of that what you will.
very probably a misprint.
http://www.discogs.com/Descendents-Milo-Goes-To-College/release/1220012
Welly wrote:Are you like a Descendents librarian or something?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
wALLton wrote:(or the Circle Jerks WITS Faulty Products mix)
Gary wrote:wALLton wrote:(or the Circle Jerks WITS Faulty Products mix)
going off topic,but is this the same or different to the UK Step Forward pressing? As that's the only one I'm familiar with.
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