patient_ot wrote:lewdd wrote:
I've had the exact opposite experience. I bought new Klipsch floor standing speakers to run through the Onkyo integrated amp I had for 3-4 years. The speakers sounded very bright compared to the JBL's I had but were much more clearer with a wider soundstage. All the things I wanted, but some songs were super bright on cymbals. I replaced the Onkyo with a CA and the brightness disappeared.
People tend to get used to the sound of any component, especially speakers and headphones after a time. Let's just say that a lot of the Klipsch speakers with those copper colored woofers are not very linear.
The source can have a big impact also, especially if you use a turntable. Most of the common integrated amps and receivers have horrible phono sections with way too much capacitance for a lot of cartridges being made today. Plug a turntable into those built-in phono sections and there will be some excess brightness, usually around 10K. Modeling and measurements prove that also.
version sound wrote:
That’s interesting, because my previous amp had a built-in phono section. The CA doesn’t. I run it through a matching CA phono pre-amp. The CA definitely sounds brighter/harsher on some records than the old amp did. Maybe it’s just more revealing? Maybe it’s my cartridge (Goldring Elektra) or TT (Goldring GR 1.2 with an upgraded platter and mat). They are certainly nothing fancy, but are fairly well regarded for what they are. Maybe I need to make sure they are set-up properly. I have a replacement stylus, but I don’t think the current one could be near worn out. It’s probably got less than 1,000 hours on it.
version sound wrote:Yeah, the TT is more or less a Planar 1, and the connectors are hardwired.
The amp is an Azur 540a and the pre-amp is a 540P.
The old amp was a Technics (SA-EX140, I think) circa 2000.
The speakers are some party boy DCM KX10s that I bought in like 1997.
lewdd wrote:several reviews here from 20 years ago that also feel the tweeters are bright
http://www.audioreview.com/product/spea ... 2.html?p=2
version sound wrote:Don’t know if this is what you were looking for, but here are some specs on the DCMs:
Specs:
Type: 3 way, 3 driver loudspeaker system
Frequency Response: 30Hz to 20kHz
Recommended Amplifier: 5 to 175W
Impedance: 8Ω
Sensitivity: 97dB
Bass: 1 x 10" cone
Midbass: 1 x 6" cone
Tweeter: 1 x 3/4" horn loaded bullet
Enclosure: transmission line
Dimensions: 29-3/4 x 12-11/16 x 11-3/4 inches
lewdd wrote:Can you find that for JBL Arena 170 and Klipsch RP-5000F and then explain it to me?
lewdd wrote:I watched that video and read some of the test results on the site of Klipsch speakers. He didn't have a test on the floor standing ones I have in my music room or the powered bookshelf ones I have in my TV room. I guess the only thing that matters is they sound good to my ears and everyone who has sat in the chair in the room. Maybe it is because I have lots of carpet in the room, lots of things hanging on the walls, the room is in the basement, the speakers are toed in and the sound appears to meet at the chair or some or no combination of all of that.
Interestingly, the JBL brand had some pretty good scores on the tests he did on them. I thought mine were good sounding, but was given guidance that replacing them versus the Onkyo amp was probably a better 1st move. I am tempted to hook the JBL up to the CA and see if they sound any better or worse than the Klipsch as I still have the JBL speakers and sub idle.
lewdd wrote:Thanks for the insight and education, but I have no interest in spending any money on testing equipment. All that will do will be having me chase the perfect speaker that doesn't exist and spending even more money. I have enough challenges holding back from reading audiophile articles and wanting to try X, Y, or Z. I need to make it time to just enjoy what I have and appreciate that it's better than anything I ever owned.
I remember that guy who has the site and does the testing saying he spent over $100k on testing equipment. He has more disposable income than I do to be able to do that. Hopefully, someone is paying him for some of his testing services.
lewdd wrote:That speaker in the center gets rave reviews online. It boggles my mind how it does for being so small and appearing to only have one driver.
lewdd wrote:whatcha buy
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